I teach a lesson (during the first project that involves glue) in k-5, every
year (gets less involved in the upper grades) about how the Elmer's glue
bottle works. I pull off the lid, show them the white plastic apparatus in
the middle that clogs the hole (which, btw, I think should be a different
color besides glue white, so the kids don't try to pick it out). I show them
how to unclog the lid, and that I should NEVER see them stick anything in
the hole or bite the hole, how changing the size of the hole ruins the whole
thing. They seem to get it, and the glue lid lasts at least the year.
Leah
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Whoa Liz, who am I to knock an "in charge" person of a workshop( please realize
I am joking around). Well, it is interesting , but I think I will stick with b,
r and y.
maryB
menichino wrote:
> Mary--
> I had just gone to a workshop put on by the State of New York Education
> Department. The person "in charge" of the visual arts stuff for our state
> was presenting the information -- mostly relating to the upcoming New York
> State Art Assessment (yes, a written, 2-hour test)
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Art teachers and standards and experts (they just don't go together)
menichino wrote:
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> Mary--
> I had just gone to a workshop put on by the State of New York Education
> Department. The person "in charge" of the visual arts stuff for our state
> was presenting the information -- mostly relating to the upcoming New York
> State Art Assessment (yes, a written, 2-hour test) that will be taken in all
> Studio in Art courses in High School. In passing he mentioned magenta,
> cyan, and yellow being primary colors. During our lunch break I asked him
> specifically about why they were the "new" primaries. He said it goes back
> to Monet's time, and that kids should be taught the correct way. He said if
> I was teaching that red, yellow, and blue are primaries, then I am teaching
> the wrong thing. And he left no leeway for differing opinions on this! So,
> then feeling all guilty and ignorant, I turn to my artsednet pals for advice
> and reassurance. Thanks, guys, you're great!
> Liz in rural NY
--
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to see the newest photos of my beautiful grandkids Tim, Tess and Tiff
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Where did you get this information from? I could just imagine me telling my
kindergartners that red is now magenta and blue is cyan! I've never even
heard of that color name. I'll still keep referring them to the old
fashioned names. AFter all, these kids have to live in the real world, not
the art world. Janet
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I guess rules are good, I just wish I knew them before I broke them.
I'd still break them, thats why we have rules. Lyris (Getty Server)
told me that I can't send the same message twice, so this was
bounced back to me. I'd thought I sent it, but wasn't sure so I tried
to resend it. Lyris says I must change the first line or it won't
deliver it.
It's an old argument that was settled 100 years ago as to using
RYB in art education in the USA. I don't know what the newest
authority might be to change back to MCY. At the elementary
level I'd stick with a basic system like RYB, but using MCY would
work as well. It just might put them in conflict with other teaching
later. Conflict is good, I have it with every science teacher my kids
have. Artists teach art, anyone who is assigned teaches science.
I try to get it into my students head that there are several color
theories, depending on the materials used, and some conflicts arise.
RBG primaries for light (computers and televisions, mixing light) and
RYB primaries for pigments (mixing paints) like in art class, or
MCY primaries for color photography (subtractive) as in the darkroom
or in commercial color printing.
Using MCY for pigment primaries works and it creates some
nice variations on secondary colors. What's most important is to
open the students minds and make them inquisitive. Let them
understand that's it's just a theory and we live in a world of
practice. I'm sure this is like mixing complements, it sure
muddies up things. But it creates such rich vibrant mud.
That's why I don't buy brown paint.
Creating Mud in KC, Woody
menichino wrote:
> Hi all --
> I've recently had it brought to my attention that the current accepted
> primary colors are magenta, cyan, and yellow. I teach elementary art and
> I'm wondering if I really need to point out that fact or if I should
> continue referring to the primary colors the way I always have -- red,
> yellow, and blue!
> Anyone have an opinion?
> Thanks --
> Liz in rural NY
--
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Yani as in Wang Yani, child prodigy painter
Woody in KC
christine kotarsky wrote:
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> Does anyone know of artists or a artist that has the last name
> beginning with Q, one with X, and one with Y. First names are welcome
> also. Thanks for your help. Christine
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click on http://www.taospaint.com/Season2000.html
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I remember learning about color mixing with tempera paint as a child. Red,
blue and yellow were the primary colors from which we were supposed to be able
to get orange, green, and purple-- and what I remember most was being
frustrated and annoyed that I could never get a good orange, that green was
never bright, and that purple was impossible. I wish I had had an art teacher
who could have told me that the red we were thinking was just red was actually
not primary- that it had a bunch of blue and in it and so it would knock down
the intensity of the orange I was trying to make, and at the same time had
enough yellow to kill my purple. Or that the blue I though was true blue had
enough red in it to neutralize the green I wanted. Maybe that would have been
way over my head when I was a grade schooler-- but I sure would have gotten
more satisfying results with magenta, turquoise and yellow as my starting
colors.
Susan Holland
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You can use 4 posts to hold up 2 half-shelves. Each side uses half the post
to sit on.
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like this.
-Numo
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from: Bunki Kramer (bkramer@srvusd.k12.ca.us)
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Danville, CA 94526
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Our 2-week, 4 hour per day course called "Sacred Circles" is up and running,
and the kids are really enjoying it! For those of you who missed all my
posts a month or so ago when I was trying to plan this, it's a course in
which students are exploring the symbolism and significance of circular
artwork in various cultures and religions, in addition to creating their own
artwork.
<http://www.bigfoot.com/~artrageous/SacredCircles.html>
***********************
Sharon...thank you for an excellent trip through your "Sacred Circles"
website. I found it facinating and can't wait to see the book you
discussed...Mandala' Luminous Symbols for Healing.
Are the exercises with the hands found in this book? I'm really interested
in these.
Great job...as always! Toodles.........
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968 Blemer Road<BR>
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http://ww2.lcms.srvusd.k12.ca.us/faculty/faculty.html <BR>
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<BLOCKQUOTE><FONT SIZE=3D"2"><FONT FACE=3D"Arial">Our 2-week, 4 hour per day co=
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Sharon...thank you for an excellent trip through your "Sacred Circles&=
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Carol,
Yes, just one period.
cindy
PS. Before you do this project start saving almost all your "trash" such as
egg cartons, small boxes, scraps of other textiles, pieces of foam or
cardboard, packing materials, the list goes on and on. You will be
surprised what they can think of. Of save all 2D stuff such as I mentioned
before if that is your preference. You could also do a great intro using
some artists who make "recyled art". I don't have any names on the tip of
my tongue but others in this list probably do. Explain to the students the
benefit of using our "trash" to make beautiful or interesting creations.
Older students could discuss "what is art?" or "does art have to be
realistic?" Sorry so long-you got my brain going this morning(always a good
way to start the day!)
When I did this before, I used a glue gun and had a parent volunteer come in
to man the glue gun station.
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I hope someone can help me - I am having a short term memory (hopefully) =
problem regarding what to use to lift a photocopied image to create a =
print. Any ideas?
Gina
Melbourne
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In a message dated 10/31/00 8:06:56 AM, dmortl@hotmail.com writes:
<< I know printing b/w photos thru photoshop on photo type printing papre
look
good, but are there any DIGITAL cameras that let you control depth of field,
etc? Or are the students just shooting with digital cameras and not even
taking exposure into consideration? What is the challenge in that? How
would a digital class measure up to a traditional class? >>
I have a Panasonic digital camera that allows me to control the aperture and
shutter speed. If you want to spend more money you can have it all. Not all
digital cameras are like the little point and shoot variety, which can be
found in the traditional format also. And my students will tell you that they
have to be just as careful of lighting problems with the digital as with the
traditional camera. As for the software. There is a LOT more to PhotoShop
than just printing the pictures. Many things that take hours in the
traditional darkroom take very little time digitally. If you teach and
require good composition then the students shoot good pictures with a digital
camera also. Students who don't work to the standards are not going to do so
no matter what the equipment. As for the digital class measuring up to the
tradtional class, that would be up to the teacher. Personally, I don't
separate them. They have digital and traditional assignments at the same time.
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I had to laugh Susan....
I think every art teacher hears this....and I for one am an equal
opportunity harasser. I work hard to develop a relationship where I am free
to use humor, and come down on kids...and to make that work, I let them at
time have fun with me. But....in general...my come back is, "good is never
enough when you dream of being best!"
Some of course quickly tell me they don't dream of being best....and I
assure them that for this reason I reserve some grades for others! So then,
I take 'em over to my computer where we use "e-grades" and highlight their
name...."well...let's look at how we'll grade this...." I start with a
"D".....and turn and look and say, "...is this good enough?" They usually
get my point. hahaha
I really ride them. "Well...gee I see we need to set this broken bone in
your leg today, but I have a golf tee time in 45 minutes. Hhhmmm....I'll
just set this bone over here and sew you up!" ................."There! Good
enough!" ?????????
"Gee honey, I know you wanted a car for your senior year. Oh sure...there's
no window on one side, but its covered with pretty decent plastic. That
rattling? Oh, that's the rusted out exhaust system underneath...but its
wired up with real strong coat hanger wire! You can get some pretty decent
sound from these car stereo speakers...but you need to slam down hard with
your fist on top of the dashboard just above the radio...oh...about....HERE
bbBBBBLLLLAAAAMM! Well...maybe slam down on it a few times. (sometimes
works!).
I know the seats are old, but we'll cover it with a blanket. After
all....its, GOOD ENOUGH, RIGHT??????"
"What??? NO date for the prom yet? Just pick any girl/boy....??? After
all...he'd/she be good enough, huh????"
Larry Seiler
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From: alethiap@win.bright.net (William Norton)
Subject: Students Art on the Web
I'm looking for art departments who post student art work on the web. My
K-12 department is working on a web site and creating elctronic portfolios
for students. We received two large grants from the state of WI for
equipment and training. The final product will be a CD with student art,
department curriculum, accessment documents, etc. on it. These will be
given to the selected students, shown to fellow teachers and
administrators, shown to art ed. students and possibly presented in a "in
progress" form at the National Art Convention in March.
My request is for the following:
1. Is anyone else doing this type of thing?
2. Those of you who post student art work on the web, do you at any time
show the student's picture?
3. If not, do you just identify their work by first name and grade
or what?
4. I'm assuming if you post, you have parent's permission?
5. If so, could you share this form with me.
6. And finally, Does your district have a policy for this whole
process? Could
you share this with me?
My district administrator has ask me to find out this information for the
administrative team.
We are going out in new territory and we want to make sure every thing is
legal and above board.
Thanks so much for your help. I realize this a lot of information, but this
group has so much to offer and so giving for each other!!!
Bill Norton
Menomonie High School Art
1715 5th St. West
Menomonie, WI 54751
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Hello Folks,
Remember snail mail? In case you still use it, check out the new
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Hi,
I did a presentation at my state conference on the topic.
It is posted on my web site:
http://olejarz.com/arted/webportfolio
harold
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Subject: Clay rattles
Fellow clay teachers- we are scheduled to make clay rattles on friday..
what I was wondering ..what makes the best rattle... the shape of the dried
clay pieces you use to make the rattle.. what is the best shape.. should
they be made from another clay..with a higher cone or lower cone.. any
suggestions?
thanks
Kathleen Gordon
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At 06:58 AM 11/1/2000 -0800, Gordon wrote:
>Fellow clay teachers- we are scheduled to make clay rattles on friday..
>what I was wondering ..what makes the best rattle... the shape of the dried
>clay pieces you use to make the rattle.. what is the best shape.. should
>they be made from another clay..with a higher cone or lower cone.. any
>suggestions?
>thanks
We've had success making rattles (LOVE 'EM), by either lining the rattle
with kleenex or newspaper or paper towel, when you close it up with clay
pieces inside (we didn't really dry them much first), or we wrapped each
little piece individually, before enclosing them. This seemed to keep them
from sticking to the inside of the rattle body, which we did by making two
pinch bowls (or other shapes) and then attaching together, with the rattle
pieces inside. Sometimes the rattlers still stick, if the kids aren't
careful in wrapping or lining. I think smaller pieces on the inside make a
more pleasant rattle, but I'm sure size of the chamber and thickness of
clay make a difference too. It's interesting to see the sound difference
when you use different size pieces too...fun!
Good luck!
Mishy
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mishlowe@amug.org -O- | |
mishy@desertdragonpottery.com /|\ | | |
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the counselor came to me and asked if I could go over colors and their
meaning/feelings etc with the 4th graders... since we were working on
nonobjective art, and eventually concentrating on color - it was a good fit.
We have been working with "Hailstones and Halibut Bones" by Mary O'Neill,
and the kids have written some great stuff - but I am torn between follow
up/culminating activity. I have 4 fourth grades - they don't all have to do
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Has anyone used this book before? Any ideas?
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Kim,
She's right lots of Scandinavians, but there are lots of other ethnic
varieties also..and a few other characters, too. Try the Amercian Swedish
Institute, the site is www.americanswedishinst.org. Or you can call them at
(612)871-4907.
Regards,
Jayne W.
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From: Ann Heineman <aheinema@postbox.acs.ohio-state.edu>
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> Kimberly,
>
> Try St. Olaf's College in Minnesota. Lots of Scandinavians in that
> great northern state of lakes and Lutherans. The state tourisim office
> might have a website that will guide you to specific info.
>
>
> Ann-on-y-mouse in Columbus
>
>
> But we are having trouble finding
> >information on some handmade decorations from Scandinavian countries.
Does
> >anyone have any suggestions for websites, or books?
>
> >Kimberly Herbert (kimberly@wcc.net)
>
> Ann Heineman....aheinema@postbox.acs.ohio-state.edu
> Greensview School...Upper Arlington City Schools
> (614)487-5050 Box 522
> aheineman@uaschools.org
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>
>
> ---
>
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> Subject: Re: DBAE,why is it off the getty page?
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> Date: Sun, 29 Oct 2000 09:01:27 EST
>
> But why would anyone call DBAE a nightmare Getty would like to forget? I
> feel it more than served its purpose and completely understood your
> statement. Mind you...I am not a
> DBAE disciple...I just think people should know the facts, have read the
> literature before saying things like the statement above. I have done
> that....a graduate thesis on the beginnings of DBAE with many interviews to
> back up what I had read and surmized.
>
Okay I want to clarify something here even if it is just for me.
I never said DBAE Was a bad dream- I said it was as if Getty thought it
was a bad dream. The context I was trying to get across was the way they
erased all the people that worked for getty in the education dept and on
this list serve, which at one time had many people involved and then
dwindled down to a few and then none. Those of you who have been on this
list for more than a few years will know what I mean. It seemed funny to
me that they wouldn't have a link on their web site for DBAE, instead
you have to type it in if you know what to ask for, or where to go. This
came to my attention since I have a friend who is a photographer and I
was telling here about the web site and lo and behold she didn't know
what I was talking about when I said DBAE and didn't see it on the page-
I went there and it has been removed. So I don't mean literally "Bad
Dream" . I was also a coordinator, training people in DBAE for our
school district and I have written many lessons using this method as
well as other methods, resources, and my own experience. You may quote
your thesis Blah Blah Blah, but there are a lot of us here who have real
experience, so before you put someone down about not knowing the facts
or being well read maybe you should first contact them and understand
what they are meaning. You also show your age when you quote your
education and omit your experience.
Sandra Barrick
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But why would anyone call DBAE a nightmare Getty would like to forget? I
feel it more than served its purpose and completely understood your
statement. Mind you...I am not a
DBAE disciple...I just think people should know the facts, have read the
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Okay I want to clarify something here even if it is just for me.
<br>I never said DBAE Was a bad dream- I said it was as if Getty thought
it was a bad dream. The context I was trying to get across was the way
they erased all the people that worked for getty in the education dept
and on this list serve, which at one time had many people involved and
then dwindled down to a few and then none. Those of you who have been on
this list for more than a few years will know what I mean. It seemed funny
to me that they wouldn't have a link on their web site for DBAE, instead
you have to type it in if you know what to ask for, or where to go. This
came to my attention since I have a friend who is a photographer and I
was telling here about the web site and lo and behold she didn't know what
I was talking about when I said DBAE and didn't see it on the page- I went
there and it has been removed. So I don't mean literally "Bad Dream" .
I was also a coordinator, training people in DBAE for our school district
and I have written many lessons using this method as well as other methods,
resources, and my own experience. You may quote your thesis Blah Blah Blah,
but there are a lot of us here who have real experience, so before you
put someone down about not knowing the facts or being well read maybe you
should first contact them and understand what they are meaning. You also
show your age when you quote your education and omit your experience.
<p>Sandra Barrick
<br>http://home.fuse.net/astroboy/Sandra.html
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Subject: FINAL list of NAEYC attendees, Atlanta, Nov. 2000
From: MaryAnn Kohl <maryann@brightring.com>
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Final List of those attending NAEYC
(cross post)
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acarolan@inland.k12.mi.us
ann
ArtsEdNet
have several roommates from the list
Looking forward to meeting
armst2@ix.netcom.com
Jane
ECE Loop
Can't wait to see those returning to the conference and meet
those who have not attended before or in a while!
Hyatt
efields@edc.org
Erica
will not be able to attend
colleagues will present pre-conference session: "Raising the Bar: Supporting
Young Children's Inquiry in Science", Wed 1-4pm
elmorulez@earthlink.net
Heidi
ECE Loop
Super 8 - on Cone Street
not presenting or working a booth
can't wait to meet
FeliciaGl@aol.com
ECELoop@aol.com
Alyce roommate
Fran, Web Coordinator, Teaching Strategies, Inc. booth #838
The Creative Curriculum Discussion List, ECENET, ECEOL, NAEYCTEC,
EC@lists.Teachers.net
Presentations: many authors and staff from Teaching Strategies presenting,
such as, Diane Trister Dodge, Cate Heroman, Toni Bickart, and staff
development trainers and network-trainers. For dates, times and locations
see http://www.teachingstrategies.com
Autograph: Diane, Toni and Cate autograph or chat on Thursday, Nov 9 , 4-
5pm, #838
Autograph: Diane, Friday, Nov 10, 4- 5pm, also #838.
general
write your Loop name on your name tag so we can recognize eachother
jsilberg@interserv.com
Jackie
ECE Loop, Kinder-L, ECENet, Early Childhood, ECEOL
presenting Friday at 11:30am, "Let Your Love Shine Through" - a mixture of
EC philosophy mixed with developmental songs and games for your little ones.
Mini-Workshops and Autographings in Gryphon House booth (see schedule in
program)
Working in Gryphon House booth
LAEmmert@aol.com
Les
mid-town Days Inn Lodge 4 miles North of the conference center
anyone "looking" for a roomie , okay for Wed., Thurs., and Friday
staying with a girlfriend Saturday night.
non-smoking double $62.15.
LynPZ@aol.com
Lyn
flying Wichita Falls, Dallas, to Atlanta on American
ECE Loop
Super 8 - on Cone Street
not presenting or working a booth
arriving Tues. late afternoon
anyone staying over Sat. night for one of the events?
maryann@brightring.com
MaryAnn
ECE Loop, Kinder-L, ECENet, First Grade
Marriott Marquis
Presenting: 2:30 on Friday, Nov. 10/ Young Chidldren Discover Great Artists
Working in Gryphon House booth almost all the time.
Gryphon House Mini-Workshop: 11am Thursday and 4pm Friday
Gryphon House Autograph Session: 3pm Thursday
npa@prodigy.net
Nancy
ECELoop@aol.com
Marriott
presenting: Thurs at 8:30
autographing: Gryphon House booth, Thurs at 11:00am
mini-workshop: Gryphon House booth, Friday am.
sefcik@home.com
Marian
KinderKorner, Kinder-L
Holiday Inn, Downtown Atlanta
Leigh
attending NAEYC with a co-teacher
Teach0815@aol.com
Melanie
Kindergargen teacher
Madison Premier Preschool
Huntsville, AL
attending with 3 other teachers, our director and assistant director
touch.of.love.ludwig@prodigy.net
Susan, Oregon
I am not able to attend the NAEYC conference but I will be there in
spirit... I am sending my infant room lead teacher in my stead.
Early childhood education/young children
(0-8)"<ECENET-L@POSTOFFICE.CSO.UIUC.EDU
yost@alltel.net
Nancy
kinder-L
Omni
roommate - Nicola
presenting - Pre-conference, Wed, with NAEYC Tech Causus,
in town on Monday, Tuesday and Wednesday
attending only Wednesday, Pre-Conference day
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maryann@brightring.com
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=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D<BR>
</FONT><H5>acarolan@inland.k12.mi.us<BR>
</H5><FONT SIZE=3D"2">ann<BR>
ArtsEdNet<BR>
have several roommates from the list <BR>
Looking forward to meeting <BR>
<BR>
<B>armst2@ix.netcom.com <BR>
</B>Jane <BR>
ECE Loop <BR>
Can't wait to see those returning to the conference and meet<BR>
those who have not attended before or in a while! <BR>
Hyatt <BR>
<BR>
</FONT><H5>efields@edc.org <BR>
</H5><FONT SIZE=3D"2">Erica <BR>
will not be able to attend <BR>
colleagues will present pre-conference session: "Raising the Bar: Supp=
orting Young Children's Inquiry in Science", Wed 1-4pm<BR>
<BR>
<B>elmorulez@earthlink.net</B> <BR>
Heidi <BR>
ECE Loop<BR>
Super 8 - on Cone Street<BR>
not presenting or working a booth<BR>
can't wait to meet <BR>
<BR>
</FONT><H5>FeliciaGl@aol.com<BR>
</H5><FONT SIZE=3D"2">ECELoop@aol.com<BR>
Alyce roommate <BR>
<BR>
</FONT><H5>Fran, Web Coordinator, Teaching Strategies, Inc. booth #838<BR>
</H5><FONT SIZE=3D"2">The Creative Curriculum Discussion List, ECENET, ECEOL,=
NAEYCTEC, EC@lists.Teachers.net <BR>
Presentations: many authors and staff from Teaching Strategies presenting, =
such as, Diane Trister Dodge, Cate Heroman, Toni Bickart, and staff developm=
ent trainers and network-trainers. For dates, times and locations see http:/=
/www.teachingstrategies.com <BR>
Autograph: Diane, Toni and Cate autograph or chat on Thursday, Nov 9 , 4- 5=
pm, #838 <BR>
Autograph: Diane, Friday, Nov 10, 4- 5pm, also #838.<BR>
<BR>
</FONT><H5>general<BR>
</H5><FONT SIZE=3D"2">write your Loop name on your name tag so we can recogni=
ze eachother<BR>
<BR>
</FONT><H5>jsilberg@interserv.com <BR>
</H5><FONT SIZE=3D"2">Jackie <BR>
ECE Loop, Kinder-L, ECENet, Early Childhood, ECEOL<BR>
presenting Friday at 11:30am, "Let Your Love Shine Through" - a m=
ixture of EC philosophy mixed with developmental songs and games for your li=
ttle ones. <BR>
Mini-Workshops and Autographings in Gryphon House booth (see schedule in pr=
ogram)<BR>
Working in Gryphon House booth<BR>
<BR>
</FONT><H5>LAEmmert@aol.com<BR>
</H5><FONT SIZE=3D"2">Les<BR>
mid-town Days Inn Lodge 4 miles North of the conference center <BR>
anyone "looking" for a roomie , okay for Wed., Thurs., and Friday=
<BR>
staying with a girlfriend Saturday night. <BR>
non-smoking double $62.15. <BR>
<BR>
</FONT><H5>LynPZ@aol.com<BR>
</H5><FONT SIZE=3D"2">Lyn <BR>
flying Wichita Falls, Dallas, to Atlanta on American<BR>
ECE Loop<BR>
Super 8 - on Cone Street<BR>
not presenting or working a booth <BR>
arriving Tues. late afternoon<BR>
anyone staying over Sat. night for one of the events?<BR>
<BR>
</FONT><H5>maryann@brightring.com<BR>
</H5><FONT SIZE=3D"2">MaryAnn <BR>
ECE Loop, Kinder-L, ECENet, First Grade<BR>
Marriott Marquis<BR>
Presenting: 2:30 on Friday, Nov. 10/ Young Chidldren Discover Great Artists=
<BR>
Working in Gryphon House booth almost all the time.<BR>
Gryphon House Mini-Workshop: 11am Thursday and 4pm Friday<BR>
Gryphon House Autograph Session: 3pm Thursday<BR>
<BR>
</FONT><H5>npa@prodigy.net<BR>
</H5><FONT SIZE=3D"2">Nancy <BR>
ECELoop@aol.com <BR>
Marriott <BR>
presenting: Thurs at 8:30 <BR>
autographing: Gryphon House booth, Thurs at 11:00am<BR>
mini-workshop: Gryphon House booth, Friday am. <BR>
<BR>
</FONT><H5>sefcik@home.com<BR>
</H5><FONT SIZE=3D"2">Marian <BR>
KinderKorner, Kinder-L<BR>
Holiday Inn, Downtown Atlanta<BR>
Leigh<BR>
attending NAEYC with a co-teacher<BR>
<BR>
</FONT><H5>Teach0815@aol.com<BR>
</H5><FONT SIZE=3D"2">Melanie <BR>
Kindergargen teacher<BR>
Madison Premier Preschool<BR>
Huntsville, AL<BR>
attending with 3 other teachers, our director and assistant director<BR>
<BR>
</FONT><H5>touch.of.love.ludwig@prodigy.net<BR>
</H5><FONT SIZE=3D"2">Susan, Oregon <BR>
I am not able to attend the NAEYC conference but I will be there in<BR>
spirit... I am sending my infant room lead teacher in my stead.  =
;<BR>
Early childhood education/young children (0-8)"<ECENET-L@POSTOFFICE=
CSO.UIUC.EDU<BR>
<BR>
</FONT><H5>yost@alltel.net <BR>
</H5><FONT SIZE=3D"2">Nancy <BR>
kinder-L <BR>
Omni <BR>
roommate - Nicola <BR>
presenting - Pre-conference, Wed, with NAEYC Tech Causus, <BR>
in town on Monday, Tuesday and Wednesday <BR>
attending only Wednesday, Pre-Conference day<BR>
<BR>
</FONT><BR>
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maryann@brightring.com<BR>
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Subject: Re: PHOTOGRAPHY VS. DIGITAL COMPUTERS
To: artsednet
From: "Joe Applebaum" <Joe.Applebaum@lnoca.org>
In our new 3 yr. old building, we have a full 22 enlarger B & W darkroom
and a 6 enlarger color darkroom with color processor. I run 6 (40 minute)
photo classes a day. Over 2 semesters I teach about 220 students. It
would be a horrible shame for them to learn photo only through digital.
What they really would be learning is digital imaging. It would be the
same as replacing all painting with computers because it can be done on the
computer. It is just another tool, or possibly an art form, but it should
not replace. Color film never totally replaced B & W film, and you still
are best at learning B & W first. If you understand how to make a really
good wet print, then it is easier to understand digital imaging. The best
situation is teaching both, with digital being the advanced course.
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Date: Wed, 1 Nov 2000 16:24:31 -0400
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From: c.sandeson@ns.sympatico.ca (Christine Sandeson)
Subject: mid term slump?
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hello all
This is the day after Hallowe'en, it has been raining for
several days in a row, mid terms are out next week, and we had a
recent in-service day. Could this explain the lack of enthusiasm my
grades 10 & 11 are expressing with a current project?
We are nearly finished a multi-step project: discussion of
how we become "used" to seeing violent images in the media, a
group-effort collage (depicting war memorial themes), the creation
of individual art work, the fragmentation of that art piece through
a cutting and shifting technique, and the display of this work
throughout the school in advance of Rememberance Day.
Many are simply not putting much effort into this, need
repeated explanations, and some after the 3rd day are still at the
collage stage, are asking 'why are we doing this?', 'didn't we do
collage in elementary school?', 'What's the point of cutting up the
work and re-arranging it?'.
For many of these students, art is "new", but the prevailing
mood has infected even my more promising students. Can I salvage
this idea?
christene
--
Rob and Christene Sandeson
Teacher & Artist
57 Exhibition Street
Truro, N.S. B2N 4C5
http://fox.nstn.ca/~sandeson/home.nstn.ca/
From aunthoppy@yahoo.com Wed, 1 Nov 2000 12:39:15
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Subject: Life as an Elective
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From: "Betty Bowen" <aunthoppy@yahoo.com>
I wanted to take a field trip to a museum in a nearby city. In order to
prepare for this I asked my 7 & 8 graders to do a report on one of the
artists in the exhibit, and to also do a small work "from" one of the
artist's works. They had a month, could work in class, they could get stuff
off the internet, they could make the art in any medium we had available. I
told them the report was required, and would be weighted as heavily as
their nine week's test.
Only HALF of them did the project. In one hour, only three did. One girl's
excuse was "I had other projects to do so I did the stuff that MATTERED".
The kid I nominated for Good Citizen award didn't bother.
So, 20 of us are going, 20's grades will probably drop a letter grade. IS
this normal and what I can expect the rest of my teaching life, or is this
part of the growing pains of being a new teacher and trying to make this
into a real art class?
BB
From cindyselvaggio@earthlink.net Wed, 1 Nov 2000 12:52:40
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I am setting up a art lesson on peace and would love some ideas on various
ways to discuss it and activities to do.
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Subject: Re: 7th graders
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Date: Wed, 01 Nov 2000 16:15:46 -0500 (EST)
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> Hi! I know we have talked about this a thousand times-
> but does anyone out there love teaching seventh
> graders? snip (Jayna Ledbetter's message)
At our middle school we call them the hormones wearing sneakers
group. These kids are the ones growing too fast or too slowly;
getting messages from their bodies that are all new...and what to do?
They are chaotic. I find they respond best to the most stringent
controls. I list the day's assignment on the board, read it to them,
ask them to repeat it back to me, etc. They need to learn how to
listen but the noise in their heads and from the aforesaid bodies is
drowning us out! Slow down, simplify, repeat things many times, many
ways. Does each child have a notebook? Have them spend five minutes
at the end of class copying the assignment down from the board, then
ask them to respond to the assignment: What I am going to do is -
think through before they get materials. Keep materials simple. Lots
of drawing (Use the exercises in the Right Side of the Brain). They
are so upset about looking stupid in front of friends. Peers are
everything to this crowd. Occasionally do a craft that allows
universal success (hand made books are good). Divide the class into
three short segments that match their short attention spans. I use
some kindergarten techniques! Oddly enough, this group wants to pose
for figure drawing! They love to show off. I have some dress up
items, like hats, masks, to vary the look of the model. Yesterday we
had tons of witches to draw (0ur kids can wear their costumes to
school). Hope this helps. Jane in Brooklyn
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Subject: Molas--(without the codes --smile fellow digest members)
Date: Wed, 1 Nov 2000 16:28:28 -0500
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Molas are works of art created by the women of the Central American Cuna(or
Kuna) tribe, of the San Blas Islands in Panama. They are made using an
applique process referred to as "reverse applique". Several layers of cloth
varying in color are loosely stitched together. Fine-tipped scissors are
used to cut the top layers. The cut edges are folded back and stitched to
the layer below.
Here are the links again if you didn't get beyond the code. I should have
known not to copy a file from "Word":
Indigenous Art Of Panama:
http://www.panart.com/
The Art of Being Kuna (great site!)
http://www.conexus.si.edu/kuna/
Mola Gallery:
http://www.panart.com/mola_gallery.htm
Mola Market Place
http://members.aol.com/molamrkt/molasite2/
Mola's International Gallery:
http://www.molasinternational.com/
Folk Art Exchange (commercial site--but lots of ideas)
http://www.folkart.com/swenty-3/http://www.folkart.com/panama/kuna/grey/
Molas (from About.com) Links for buying Molas do not work
http://quilting.about.com/hobbies/quilting/library/weekly/aa072297.htm
I told you folks I had many more links not on my pages yet...just ask.
Enjoy,
Judy Decker
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Would it be helpful to show collage work by contemporary collage artists so
kids can get the point of the advantages/power of collage and
mult-layers/multi-levels communicated by collage?
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In a message dated 10/31/00 9:54:04 PM Eastern Standard Time,
DWHEEL5645@aol.com writes:
> Holly, do you teach high school??? You must teach older kids - you are
> funny!!! Art Nazi's Unite!!!!
>
> Funny, you should say that, Deb, cause I was thinking YOU are funny! "(No
> Art for YOU!")
> I (try to) teach Middle School students! LOL
Holly :0)
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<HTML><FONT COLOR="#800080" SIZE=2 FAMILY="SANSSERIF" FACE="Tahoma" LANG="0">In a message dated 10/31/00 9:54:04 PM Eastern Standard Time, <BR>DWHEEL5645@aol.com writes:
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<BR><BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=CITE style="BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px">Holly, do you teach high school??? You must teach older kids - you are
<BR>funny!!! Art Nazi's Unite!!!!
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<BR>Funny, you should say that, Deb, cause I was thinking YOU are funny! "(No <BR>Art for YOU!")
<BR>I (try to) teach Middle School students! LOL</FONT><FONT COLOR="#800080" SIZE=2 FAMILY="SANSSERIF" FACE="Tahoma" LANG="0"></BLOCKQUOTE>
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Subject: Viet Nam Links added to Decker Web
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I don't know what hubby has in mind for his lesson...but he needs the files
for tomorrow (to put on school server...and is doing the lesson in class
Friday). I put a temporary page on my WCOIL site of the links I found plus
some of Bob Fromm's links (a very BIG thanks to Bob!).
Our students are to do a lesson sometime during the day on Veterans Day to
pay tribute to our veterans. I will keep this page on at least until after
November 11.
http://www2.wcoil.com/~mdecker/vietnam.htm
Since a list member had requested U.S. culture from the 60's, I may add a
few sites (no promises). Please forward any additional site you may have.
Thanks for your input,
Judy Decker
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<html><DIV>Ever feel like your only a teacher- or howabout only the art teacher? I hope you enjoy this as much as I did. </DIV>
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<DIV>ONLY A TEACHER </DIV>
<DIV></DIV>I am a teacher! What I do and say is being absorbed by young minds who will echo these images across the ages. My lessons will be immortal, affecting people yet unborn, people I will never see or know. The future of the world is in my classroom today and this future has potential for both good or bad. The pliable minds of tomorrow's leaders will be molded either artistically or grotesquely by what I do. Several future presidents are learning from me today; so are great writers of the next decades and so are all the so called ordinary people who will make the decisions in a democracy. I must never forget these same young people could be thieves and murderers of the future. Just a teacher? I have a calling to the greatest profession of all! I must be vigilant every day lest I lose one fragile opportunity to improve tomorrow.
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<P>Dr. Ivan Fitzwater </P>And what about being an art teacher? Not only am I a teacher, I am also an art teacher who can reach students on a completely different level. Future painters, sculptors, desingers, and craftsman may look back on their memories in my classroom as the only place they felt a sense of belonging. I am influencing future lawmakers, administrators, and CEOs about how they will support or not support the arts by what I say and do. Everyday, I have an opportunity to make an impact on the world by sharing my passion for creating and understanding art. I just need to remind myself this on a daily basis during fire drills, bomb threats, the occasional fight, and the (all too scary) days I didn't have my coffee. -Me
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I'm going too, I am a workshop presenter on Momotypes.
Ken Schwab, San Jose CA
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Oops, I thought this was for the National conference. not going to Atlanta.
Ken Schwab
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Hi Ken and all going to NAEYC, FYI Sax used to exhibit at this convention
and have decided that it is not our market. It is a conference that is
geared to the pre K kiddies. Do you think a lot of art teachers go to this
convention and we should change our mind? I'm curious. Thanks, Judy
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> I'm going too, I am a workshop presenter on Momotypes.
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I do a similar project each spring - my guess is that once all those D's and F's start showing up on grade sheets the lil' darlings will bend over backwards trying to bring their grades back up. Don't change the rules now or you'll regret it for the next several years. You are thoroughly justified - you gave them the requirements for the assignments and they chose not to fulfill their obligations for this assignment. It's going to be rough on you for awhile, but this is the only way you'll get the respect you deserve. Good luck!
~Michal
> So, 20 of us are going, 20's grades will probably drop a letter grade. IS
> this normal and what I can expect the rest of my teaching life, or is this
> part of the growing pains of being a new teacher and trying to make this
> into a real art class?
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Hi Holly:
Any chance I could see some of your "do now" activities? I have a few
very immature beg. art classes that are a constant challenge every day of
the week....most of them are in that class for, what they think is going to
be the "easy" grade....NOT! Today was a better day because I had them begin
on a specific direction immediately....usually they just get started on the
project at hand and some like to take their time getting settled. We just
figured quarter grades and many of them are either getting "D's" and a few
"F's" because they just can't get it together...like I said it is a group
with a high number of immature, loud, whinny, freshmen. But, they have
gotten a "little" better since they first started back in August!!
THanks!
Barb F.
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> In a message dated 10/29/00 2:53:10 PM Eastern Standard Time,
> PrimaryE@aol.com writes:
>
> << Group discussions or group instruction does not work. Write out
> instructions
> and hand out sheets. >>
>
> I don't believe my disruptive kids can READ! I write a DO NOW activity
for
> them EVERY DAY in the same place, what has it been, 8 weeks now? (JUst so
I
> can take attendance in peace. Hasn't happened yet in the afternoon) Some
> have yet to make the connection that its written there for THEM to read,
not
> me! I have to go around to each kid and MAKE them look at the board and
take
> out their sketchbook. Some days I just take it off their grade. Its
their
> choice to work or not. Do I have to care more than they do EVERY minute?!
> I have about 12 or 13 GREAT kids out of 30 who do whatever they are
supposed
> to!
>
> Holly :0)
>
> ---
>
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I recently ordered the video entitled "Behind the Scenes with David =
Hockney" which is hosted by Penn and Teller.
After previewing it, I think it's a little too "young" for my middle =
through HS students, so I'd be more than willing to sell it for what I =
paid (or best offer) and won't charge shipping.
If you're interested, please email me privately:
artrageous@bigfoot.com
Sharon
WEBSITE: http://www.bigfoot.com/~artrageous
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And mine complain with only two pieces per six weeks and many failures,
from ART III and IV students. I am not giving in though.
Jackie
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In a message dated 11/1/00 2:55:29 PM Central Standard Time,
cindyselvaggio@earthlink.net writes:
<< I am setting up a art lesson on peace and would love some ideas on various
ways to discuss it and activities to do. >>
In Missouri one of our State Agencies holds a Peace Poster contest. My
students turn out some wonderful posters on the subjects of helping one
another, being kind,
and other character traits that might lead to peace. The contest is in
celebration
of Martin Luther King Day and all winners usually show interaction of black
and whites interacting in a peaceful way - work - play. I had a first place
winner one
year and two second place winners last year. The discussions alone are worth
their weight in gold. One little boy who had called others of different skin
names on the playground seemed to be positively influenced by all this-
wonderful - he's
now a fifth grader and still holds his tongue even thought he hears racial
hate at home. For what its worth. Roberta
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>
> For as much as I've been whining about my students, most of them work on the
> projects I've been giving them! I have about 6-7 failures in my classes of
> 30. Only 1 to 3 A's.....
> Give deserved compliments.
> Sometimes when I do they look at me as if no one has ever said a kind thing
> to them in their entire life! Sometimes they make me smile...
>
>
>
> ditto,
Have much the same situation.
Today was one of those AHHA! days
It's so nice when even the @#$%^ kids will work and I can compliment them.
Despite whining about the value drawing they are beginning to 'get it" It's so
nice when that happens.
Have a shy quiet kid with mediocre skills and nooooooooeye contact who came in
extra time to work on a pen and ink.
He seemed so appreciative of any little bit of help and actually "got it"
despite the fact that I was teaching another class. It was GREAT and he felt
proud. ---------ME too
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In a message dated 10/31/00 9:07:14 PM Central Standard Time, Rdunkelart
writes:
<< Another fun one of Shels is "The Turkey Shot out of the Oven" For several
years
I had my second graders illustrate this one and they had a fabulous time
with all the imaginative ways they could catch the turkey and the animals
ducking and Mother
screaming and Dad yelling etc. >>
This is wrong - the poem is by Jack Prelutsky not Shel. Still a funny poem
from his book "Something Big was Here".
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Please stop sending me this mail.
This is artednet.
Not politicalednet.
And you've forwarded it three times already.
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I think that we get very few kids that plan to go on in Art, compared to
those who go on in choir or certainly in band...so they are very reluctant
for art to become a 'real' subject, they want to 'mess with clay', not work
in ceramics, they want to smudge $3.00 worth of pastels on a paper so they
can write their name in it, or they want to learn to make old english letters
so they can swipe your india ink and set up a tatoo parlor, huff your spray
paint, jack your airbrushes...have I left anything out, oh yeah, sometimes
you can actually spark an interest in art and artists!!
So I work around their wayout interests, have you ever noticed how art 3 & 4
attracts these crazy kids with multiple piercings and goofy haircuts?? maybe
it's just my teeny west Texas town... :-) Art Nazis Unite!!!!! Deb W
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wgbaas!!! and holly!!!
It is great, isn't it, when the kids get it! Today I had 3 kids work thru
lunch...amazing....I LOVE my kids, but I am crazy, I have a sign to prove
it...it says Mrs. W. is crazy!!! Come to think of it , it was made by the kid
who called me a fascist....well, I display it with pride!!! :-) DW
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Three cheers!! It comes as 'goobledy gook' - is that spelled right??? DW
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Arty, what is the problem? It is just his web site with his art and
art lessons on it or am I missing something? Am I remembering
correctly that English is Oscar's second language?
Sharon from NJ
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> Please stop sending me this mail.
> This is artednet.
> Not politicalednet.
> And you've forwarded it three times already.
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Hi BB
Dont be discouraged. Just consider you may have shocked them. I started
teaching at the school Im at a year ago. I dont thinnk they had written
much at all in the art room before I came. I quickly realized that to
integrate writing I had to go slowly...sneak in there more and more. And
to tell you the truth, the kids are still getting used it. I am at the
elementary level, which is a little different, but not much. At any grade
level, many kids kids have the impression that art is soley focused on
production. I started them with illustrating words, making funny sentences
and creating a picture to go with it, using words in their art, posters,
fill in the blank worksheets I made up, short artuist statements, and other
things. Get them used to the idea that art is smart. You need to write no
matter what you do, whether you are in construction or and artist, or a
radio host!
As I said, a year later, they are still getting used to it, but they ARE
getting used to it, and they are beginning to see it's value, and LIKE it.
They realize it gives them a chance to share, to learn, to have KNOWLEDGE
nad that knowledge makes them smart and gives them power. (Not to mention
all the other reasons that we teachers know why its good!) So dont give
up, perhaps just go a little slower.
Also, with middle school (Or any level) make sure you have "check-ups" and
breakdown the process for them. This helps them organize information,
gives them a chance to share along the way, discuss their research
experience in an open forum, ask for help...and importantly, be hjeld
accountable. They need the structure. Maybe designate one or two days as
deadlines for x amount of info/pages/resources. Make sure they are on par.
Show them how to look, and go through the info. They need prodding at this
age. And they need a "forced" opportunity to discuss the process, how
things are going etc... You could always add some gimmicks Perhaps, like:
"what did you gather the artists personality/lifestyle/opinion was like?
if your artist was going to endorse a product, what kind of product would
they choose and why? Create a fake ad with your artist promoting the
product. Or some other weird thing like that. They can fun with it, and
get all the info they need. Humor works well with that age group too.
Sorry so long, hope this helps a little anyway.
Anna
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When I was in high school, my teacher taught me a watercolor technique called
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about this technique? I hope so! Thanks, Tamara
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Subject: Oscar's delightful web site
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http://www.oscarararipe.cjb.net/
If you can't open Oscar's Virtual Gallery the way he sent it perhaps
you can open it this way and enjoy his bright sunny landscapes and
delightful vases of flowers. About the most disturbing thing on the
site is the photos of his studio/gallery and his home in Brazil. I
turned green with envy when I saw the photos. I can see why he won
the World Art Award of Excellence 2000.
I think you can assume that the word Libertarian means a very
different thing to Oscar in Brazil than it does in US of A. We have
been through this before when he tried to share his art and art
lessons with us. Please welcome him and cut him a break. If you have
never lived in a foreign country and experienced the communication
bombs maybe you are not sensitive to the possibilities. I have and I
know how frustrating it is to try to communicate and not know why you
have caused a commotion. I was banned from a shop once because I put
money on the counter instead of counting it into the shop keeper's
hand. A major offense. How would I know? I was banned from riding
the bus to school and I never did find out what I did that was so
offensive. My teacher would try to help and laugh about what the town
people were reporting about "What the Yank did today." I used an
offensive word in class once and the parents were demanding that I be
removed or their children would be withdrawn. Somehow the teachers
were able to smooth that over. I was told not to use "the word"
again. It is a pretty common word here but curdled their blood! Who
would know!!!
----------
From: "Oscar Araripe" <oararipe@mgconecta.com.br>
To: "ArtsEdNet Talk" <artsednet@lists.getty.edu>
Subject: A Libertarian Invitation / This site won the World Art Award
of Excellence 2000.
Date: Wed, Nov 1, 2000, 3:03 PM
Dear friends and fellows :
As a Artsednet member, I'm sending you this libertarian invitation
privately; because Lyris, unfortunately , don't accept image.
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If you can't open Oscar's Virtual Gallery the way he sent it perhaps you ca=
n open it this way and enjoy his bright sunny landscapes and delightful vase=
s of flowers. About the most disturbing thing on the site is the=
photos of his studio/gallery and his home in Brazil. I turned green w=
ith envy when I saw the photos. I can see why he won the World Art Awa=
rd of Excellence 2000.<BR>
<BR>
I think you can assume that the word Libertarian means a very different thi=
ng to Oscar in Brazil than it does in US of A. We have been through th=
is before when he tried to share his art and art lessons with us. Plea=
se welcome him and cut him a break. If you have never lived in a forei=
gn country and experienced the communication bombs maybe you are not sensiti=
ve to the possibilities. I have and I know how frustrating it is to tr=
y to communicate and not know why you have caused a commotion. I was b=
anned from a shop once because I put money on the counter instead of countin=
g it into the shop keeper's hand. A major offense. How would I k=
now? I was banned from riding the bus to school and I never did find o=
ut what I did that was so offensive. My teacher would try to help and =
laugh about what the town people were reporting about "What the Yank di=
d today." I used an offensive word in class once and the parents =
were demanding that I be removed or their children would be withdrawn.  =
;Somehow the teachers were able to smooth that over. I was told not to=
use "the word" again. It is a pretty common word here but c=
urdled their blood! Who would know!!!<BR>
----------<BR>
From: "Oscar Araripe" <oararipe@mgconecta.com.br><BR>
To: "ArtsEdNet Talk" <artsednet@lists.getty.edu><BR>
Subject: A Libertarian Invitation / This site won the World Art Award of Ex=
cellence 2000.<BR>
Date: Wed, Nov 1, 2000, 3:03 PM<BR>
<BR>
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<BR>
<BR>
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Can anyone tell me what is the difference between Japanese and Chinese brush
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Subject: Oscar's delightful web site
Date: Wed, Nov 1, 2000, 10:34 PM
http://www.oscarararipe.cjb.net/
If you can't open Oscar's Virtual Gallery the way he sent it perhaps
you can open it this way and enjoy his bright sunny landscapes and
delightful vases of flowers. About the most disturbing thing on the
site is the photos of his studio/gallery and his home in Brazil. I
turned green with envy when I saw the photos. I can see why he won
the World Art Award of Excellence 2000.
I think you can assume that the word Libertarian means a very
different thing to Oscar in Brazil than it does in US of A. We have
been through this before when he tried to share his art and art
lessons with us. Please welcome him and cut him a break. If you have
never lived in a foreign country and experienced the communication
bombs maybe you are not sensitive to the possibilities. I have and I
know how frustrating it is to try to communicate and not know why you
have caused a commotion. I was banned from a shop once because I put
money on the counter instead of counting it into the shop keeper's
hand. A major offense. How would I know? I was banned from riding
the bus to school and I never did find out what I did that was so
offensive. My teacher would try to help and laugh about what the town
people were reporting about "What the Yank did today." I used an
offensive word in class once and the parents were demanding that I be
removed or their children would be withdrawn. Somehow the teachers
were able to smooth that over. I was told not to use "the word"
again. It is a pretty common word here but curdled their blood! Who
would know!!!
Sharon from NJ
--To respond to me directly click on mailto:heneborn@erols.com
----------
From: "Oscar Araripe" <oararipe@mgconecta.com.br>
To: "ArtsEdNet Talk" <artsednet@lists.getty.edu>
Subject: A Libertarian Invitation / This site won the World Art Award
of Excellence 2000.
Date: Wed, Nov 1, 2000, 3:03 PM
Dear friends and fellows :
As a Artsednet member, I'm sending you this libertarian invitation
privately; because Lyris, unfortunately , don't accept image.
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From: "Sharon Henneborn" <<FONT COLOR=3D"#0000FF"><U>heneborn@er=
ols.com</U></FONT>><BR>
Subject: Oscar's delightful web site<BR>
Date: Wed, Nov 1, 2000, 10:34 PM<BR>
<BR>
<BLOCKQUOTE><FONT COLOR=3D"#0000FF"><U>http://www.oscarararipe.cjb.net/>
</U></FONT><BR>
If you can't open Oscar's Virtual Gallery the way he sent it perhaps you ca=
n open it this way and enjoy his bright sunny landscapes and delightful vase=
s of flowers. About the most disturbing thing on the site is the=
photos of his studio/gallery and his home in Brazil. I turned green w=
ith envy when I saw the photos. I can see why he won the World Art Awa=
rd of Excellence 2000.<BR>
<BR>
I think you can assume that the word Libertarian means a very different thi=
ng to Oscar in Brazil than it does in US of A. We have been through th=
is before when he tried to share his art and art lessons with us. Plea=
se welcome him and cut him a break. If you have never lived in a forei=
gn country and experienced the communication bombs maybe you are not sensiti=
ve to the possibilities. I have and I know how frustrating it is to tr=
y to communicate and not know why you have caused a commotion. I was b=
anned from a shop once because I put money on the counter instead of countin=
g it into the shop keeper's hand. A major offense. How would I k=
now? I was banned from riding the bus to school and I never did find o=
ut what I did that was so offensive. My teacher would try to help and =
laugh about what the town people were reporting about "What the Yank di=
d today." I used an offensive word in class once and the parents =
were demanding that I be removed or their children would be withdrawn.  =
;Somehow the teachers were able to smooth that over. I was told not to=
use "the word" again. It is a pretty common word here but c=
urdled their blood! Who would know!!!<BR>
<BR>
</BLOCKQUOTE>Sharon from NJ<BR>
<BLOCKQUOTE>--To respond to me directly click on <FONT COLOR=3D"#0000FF"><U>m=
ailto:heneborn@erols.com</U></FONT> <BR>
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ecta.com.br</U></FONT>><BR>
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getty.edu</U></FONT>><BR>
Subject: A Libertarian Invitation / This site won the World Art Award of Ex=
cellence 2000.<BR>
Date: Wed, Nov 1, 2000, 3:03 PM<BR>
<BR>
<BR>
<BLOCKQUOTE><TT>Dear friends and fellows :<BR>
As a Artsednet member, I'm sending you this libertarian invitation privatel=
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<BR>
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I read HO LIM LIM to my kdg. It's about a rabbit and the book is done in
beautiful wood cuts. We then do printmaking rabbits on scratchfoam.
RAINBOW FISH also a printmaking project using markers.
WHITE RABBITS COLOR BOOK about color mixing
ANANSI THE SPIDER/ AFrican story. We do adinkra design prints using stencils
Eric Carles books are great resources for collages
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Congratulations Oscar!
Kathy in Kalamazoo
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Hi,
This is an interesting use of the internet. And a very creative idea.
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There was something in the Sept. issue of either Scholastic Art or School
Arts magazine on a Andy Goldworthy project in it. Looked good.
Diannabananana
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> Hello all,
>
> Today I was supposed to take the Art Club to our Outdoor Ed centre
> for
> field sketching and other activities but it got postponed because of
> the
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Subject: Re: Re(2): "Is this good enough"
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Hi Jackie:
I won't give up either...I just am not that kind of person...so I
persist and will eventually CONQUER!!!!!!!!! Like Holly says, "ART NAZIS
UNITE!!" :-0)
BF
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> And mine complain with only two pieces per six weeks and many failures,
> from ART III and IV students. I am not giving in though.
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Dear Mark,
As far as my limited experience with Gradekeeper is concerned, I think it is
not a "thinking" program. all you can do is plug in the grades, I don't
believe it can figure 5 points per day; I think you have to deduct them
yourself and type in your own result.
Same thing with the grades N, U, and I. I don't know what I stands for but
if N means "needs improvement", I'd make anything below a C fit that
category, and U (unsatisfactory?) would be D- or F.(65 and below?)
If you click on HELP in the Gradekeeper program, then click on Contents,
there's a category called Contacting me. Maybe you could ask there....
As easy as the program is, its not perfect! Good luck with grades, I have
to do them this week too..
Holly :0)
n a message dated 11/1/00 8:27:24 PM Eastern Standard Time,
malexander06@snet.net writes:
> 1) The sketchbooks were due Monday, and it is clearly spelled out that the
> students will lose 5 points for every school day the sketchbook is late. I
> am having a hard time figuring out how to program the grade sheets to
> reflect these negative points. Any Suggestions?
>
> 2) The primary grades get grades like S, U, I, but I am having a hard time
> getting the program to accept these grades. It seems to only accept A, B,
> C, D, F or 1-100 formatted grades. I obviously don't need to find averages
> for these students, which is what the program is designed for, but does
> anyone have any suggestions for how I can simply record and report this
> kind of grade?
>
> I'm already grateful for your quick responses. Thanks!
>
> Mark
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<HTML><FONT COLOR="#800080" SIZE=2 FAMILY="SANSSERIF" FACE="Tahoma" LANG="0">Dear Mark,
<BR>
<BR>As far as my limited experience with Gradekeeper is concerned, I think it is <BR>not a "thinking" program. all you can do is plug in the grades, I don't <BR>believe it can figure 5 points per day; I think you have to deduct them <BR>yourself and type in your own result.
<BR>
<BR>Same thing with the grades N, U, and I. I don't know what I stands for but <BR>if N means "needs improvement", I'd make anything below a C fit that <BR>category, and U (unsatisfactory?) would be D- or F.(65 and below?)
<BR>
<BR>If you click on HELP in the Gradekeeper program, then click on Contents, <BR>there's a category called Contacting me. Maybe you could ask there....
<BR>
<BR>As easy as the program is, its not perfect! Good luck with grades, I have <BR>to do them this week too..
<BR>
<BR>
<BR>
<BR></FONT><FONT COLOR="#800080" SIZE=2 FAMILY="SANSSERIF" FACE="Futura Bk BT" LANG="0"><B>Holly :0)</FONT><FONT COLOR="#800080" SIZE=2 FAMILY="SANSSERIF" FACE="Tahoma" LANG="0"></B>
<BR>
<BR>n a message dated 11/1/00 8:27:24 PM Eastern Standard Time, <BR>malexander06@snet.net writes:
<BR>
<BR></FONT><FONT COLOR="#000000" SIZE=2 FAMILY="SANSSERIF" FACE="Arial" LANG="0">
<BR><BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=CITE style="BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px">1) The sketchbooks were due Monday, and it is clearly spelled out that the <BR>students will lose 5 points for every school day the sketchbook is late. I <BR>am having a hard time figuring out how to program the grade sheets to <BR>reflect these negative points. Any Suggestions?</FONT><FONT COLOR="#000000" SIZE=3 FAMILY="SANSSERIF" FACE="Arial" LANG="0">
<BR>
<BR></FONT><FONT COLOR="#000000" SIZE=2 FAMILY="SANSSERIF" FACE="Arial" LANG="0">2) The primary grades get grades like S, U, I, but I am having a hard time <BR>getting the program to accept these grades. It seems to only accept A, B, <BR>C, D, F or 1-100 formatted grades. I obviously don't need to find averages <BR>for these students, which is what the program is designed for, but does <BR>anyone have any suggestions for how I can simply record and report this <BR>kind of grade? </FONT><FONT COLOR="#000000" SIZE=3 FAMILY="SANSSERIF" FACE="Arial" LANG="0">
<BR>
<BR></FONT><FONT COLOR="#000000" SIZE=2 FAMILY="SANSSERIF" FACE="Arial" LANG="0">I'm already grateful for your quick responses. Thanks!</FONT><FONT COLOR="#000000" SIZE=3 FAMILY="SANSSERIF" FACE="Arial" LANG="0">
<BR>
<BR></FONT><FONT COLOR="#000000" SIZE=2 FAMILY="SANSSERIF" FACE="Arial" LANG="0">Mark</FONT><FONT COLOR="#000000" SIZE=3 FAMILY="SANSSERIF" FACE="Arial" LANG="0">
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Dear Barb,
I'd love to help you, but I'm not too successful myself!
Its the end of the first quarter for me and I was just saying to myself that
I have to rethink EVERYTHING I've ever known that worked for me in the past.
(I would LOVE to see Harry Wong try to be these kids" teacher!)
My simple Do Nows are not working the way they were intended to. (Today my
Do Now said, "Please take out your sketchbook. Copy these notes: Texture is
another element of Art. TACTILE TEXURE: also called actual texture, is the
way a surface would feel if you could touch it. VISUAL TEXTURE can also be
called simulated texture. It is the way a surface appears through your sense
of vision.
List as many types of texture that you can think of: eg. shiny, dull, bumpy,
soft, etc.)"
My students, too have to "settle in to begin working" After a few weeks when
I realized they were all failing, I started to explain how important
participation, HW, projects and quizzes could be to their grades. "Settling
in" to them means that now I, (the Art Nazi), have to go around to EACH
table, tell every 2 kids to take out their sketchbook, copy the notes or the
simple activity thats written on the board, every day, in the same place,
every day for 9 weeks now. I have found that without me to prod them they'd
settle in all morning and willingly take a zero. The students are supposed
to start the class themselves. After a few weeks of them not reading the
board, I began telling them what the board said at the door. I've also tried
going around with my marking book, giving grades on the spot, reminding them
of their responsibilites, sometimes in a patient way, sometimes not.)
ANother common related quote from the kids: "We had homework?" That too is
written on the board in the same place everyday and announced out loud by me.
Another chore 1st period, is getting the whole class to get up for the
Pledge. Most of you just have no idea what these kids could be like!!!)
Our principal has recently directed EVERY teacher to assign 30 minutes of HW
EACH night, in EVERY subject, even on Fridays. This too will be fun for me.
By the time I check attendance, check that they are on task, note the ones
who are not, check HW, check Do NOw, check participation, when do I teach ?
So how can I help you when I can't help myself!
When I had them work on a color-mixing-painting project (the do now was,
"Resume work on your paint project." with no checking HW, and taking
attendance at my leisure, is when they were on task the best. I wonder if I
should just work on projects, and give up the illusion of me me even trying
to be a "real teacher" .... EVERY time I have attempted to do anything more
has backfired with some bad behavior popping up. Disruptive behavior takes
up a lot of my time.
Sorry for another long story....
Holly :0)
n a message dated 11/1/00 8:47:06 PM Eastern Standard Time,
felsecker@home.com writes:
> Hi Holly:
> Any chance I could see some of your "do now" activities? I have a few
> very immature beg. art classes that are a constant challenge every day of
> the week....most of them are in that class for, what they think is going to
> be the "easy" grade....NOT! Today was a better day because I had them begin
> on a specific direction immediately....usually they just get started on the
> project at hand and some like to take their time getting settled. We just
> figured quarter grades and many of them are either getting "D's" and a few
> "F's" because they just can't get it together...like I said it is a group
> with a high number of immature, loud, whinny, freshmen. But, they have
> gotten a "little" better since they first started back in August!!
> THanks!
> Barb F.
>
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<HTML><FONT COLOR="#800080" SIZE=2 FAMILY="SANSSERIF" FACE="Tahoma" LANG="0">Dear Barb,
<BR>
<BR>I'd love to help you, but I'm not too successful myself!
<BR>
<BR>Its the end of the first quarter for me and I was just saying to myself that <BR>I have to rethink EVERYTHING I've ever known that worked for me in the past.
<BR>
<BR>(I would LOVE to see Harry Wong try to be these kids" teacher!)
<BR>
<BR>My simple Do Nows are not working the way they were intended to. (Today my <BR>Do Now said, "Please take out your sketchbook. Copy these notes: Texture is <BR>another element of Art. TACTILE TEXURE: also called actual texture, is the <BR>way a surface would feel if you could touch it. VISUAL TEXTURE can also be <BR>called simulated texture. It is the way a surface appears through your sense <BR>of vision.
<BR>List as many types of texture that you can think of: eg. shiny, dull, bumpy, <BR>soft, etc.)"
<BR>
<BR>My students, too have to "settle in to begin working" After a few weeks when <BR>I realized they were all failing, I started to explain how important <BR>participation, HW, projects and quizzes could be to their grades. "Settling <BR>in" to them means that now I, (the Art Nazi), have to go around to EACH <BR>table, tell every 2 kids to take out their sketchbook, copy the notes or the <BR>simple activity thats written on the board, every day, in the same place, <BR>every day for 9 weeks now. I have found that without me to prod them they'd <BR>settle in all morning and willingly take a zero. The students are supposed <BR>to start the class themselves. After a few weeks of them not reading the <BR>board, I began telling them what the board said at the door. I've also tried <BR>going around with my marking book, giving grades on the spot, reminding them <BR>of their responsibilites, sometimes in a patient way, sometimes not.) <BR>ANot!
her common related quote from the kids: "We had homework?" That too is <BR>written on the board in the same place everyday and announced out loud by me. <BR> Another chore 1st period, is getting the whole class to get up for the <BR>Pledge. Most of you just have no idea what these kids could be like!!!)
<BR>
<BR>Our principal has recently directed EVERY teacher to assign 30 minutes of HW <BR>EACH night, in EVERY subject, even on Fridays. This too will be fun for me. <BR>By the time I check attendance, check that they are on task, note the ones <BR>who are not, check HW, check Do NOw, check participation, when do I teach ?
<BR>
<BR>So how can I help you when I can't help myself!
<BR>
<BR>When I had them work on a color-mixing-painting project (the do now was, <BR>"Resume work on your paint project." with no checking HW, and taking <BR>attendance at my leisure, is when they were on task the best. I wonder if I <BR>should just work on projects, and give up the illusion of me me even trying <BR>to be a "real teacher" .... EVERY time I have attempted to do anything more <BR>has backfired with some bad behavior popping up. Disruptive behavior takes <BR>up a lot of my time.
<BR>
<BR>Sorry for another long story....
<BR>
<BR></FONT><FONT COLOR="#800080" SIZE=2 FAMILY="SANSSERIF" FACE="Futura Bk BT" LANG="0"><B>Holly :0)
<BR></FONT><FONT COLOR="#800080" SIZE=2 FAMILY="SANSSERIF" FACE="Tahoma" LANG="0"></B>
<BR>n a message dated 11/1/00 8:47:06 PM Eastern Standard Time, <BR>felsecker@home.com writes:
<BR>
<BR></FONT><FONT COLOR="#000000" SIZE=2 FAMILY="SANSSERIF" FACE="Arial" LANG="0">
<BR><BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=CITE style="BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px">Hi Holly:
<BR> Any chance I could see some of your "do now" activities? I have a few
<BR>very immature beg. art classes that are a constant challenge every day of
<BR>the week....most of them are in that class for, what they think is going to
<BR>be the "easy" grade....NOT! Today was a better day because I had them begin
<BR>on a specific direction immediately....usually they just get started on the
<BR>project at hand and some like to take their time getting settled. We just
<BR>figured quarter grades and many of them are either getting "D's" and a few
<BR>"F's" because they just can't get it together...like I said it is a group
<BR>with a high number of immature, loud, whinny, freshmen. But, they have
<BR>gotten a "little" better since they first started back in August!!
<BR>THanks!
<BR>Barb F.
<BR></BLOCKQUOTE>
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Holly, Barb,
I do so relate to what you've been saying. It seems that all the teachers in
my school agree that the kids are, in general, less interested in working
hard this year. Maybe there is a reason for this It's frustrating. It takes
a lot of diligence and persistence to keep them on target. There is so much
talent out there and when you get them to be productive, it's wonderful. Can
you imagine that we will have Regents in the studio foundation art course
before long in NY state? We're trying to follow the guidelines suggested by
NY state already so we'll be ready. Oy vay!!!!!!!
Eileen in Westchester
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<HTML><FONT SIZE=2>Holly, Barb,
<BR>
<BR>I do so relate to what you've been saying. It seems that all the teachers in <BR>my school agree that the kids are, in general, less interested in working <BR>hard this year. Maybe there is a reason for this It's frustrating. It takes <BR>a lot of diligence and persistence to keep them on target. There is so much <BR>talent out there and when you get them to be productive, it's wonderful. Can <BR>you imagine that we will have Regents in the studio foundation art course <BR>before long in NY state? We're trying to follow the guidelines suggested by <BR>NY state already so we'll be ready. Oy vay!!!!!!!
<BR>
<BR>Eileen in Westchester</FONT></HTML>
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Subject: Re: Crazy Kids...funky doo's, and the need for a "Voice!"
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> have you ever noticed how art 3 & 4
> attracts these crazy kids with multiple piercings and goofy
> haircuts?? Deb W
Deb...
have to laugh....but you are right, and there is good reason for this! Each
generation seems to do what it needs to do to get a rise out of its adult
population. To draw attention to itself, the "shock" factor. I heard a
statistic about 10 years ago that cited the average adult spending about
eight minutes in meaningful conversation per week with their teen. How they
did such a survey, I haven't a clue...however, teens are hungering for
attention.
Imagine...in a culture that has grown accustomed to piercings, funky hair
and color, tatoos... having survived the big hair 80's with torn jeans and
spandex, trying to find an identity and stand out in a crowd!
At any rate...such students become somewhat introverted, though their
outward expressions seem to suggest otherwise. The learn the arts give them
a voice. A voice that first speaks to themselves...then one they learn can
reach out to others.
Vincent Van Gogh went thru the same process. Rejection after
rejection....from his first advocations of failed ministry thru the church,
missionary ventures, his family, etc.... Some contemporary thinkers believe
he turned to images as a means to find a voice yet to possibly express
himself thru. When he discovered such, he became a prolific machine. In a
ten year period crankin' out 800 drawings and 900 paintings, and selling
only one all that time for about $80......!!
On the flip side, the students that find easy expression and gained
attention thru activities such as sports, ....seem proportionately not to
put as much value on their desire/need to explore the arts, for their need
for attention is being satisfied. I'm not saying athletes don't like making
art, for there is obviously a wide mix of those that enjoy art making...but
I'm saying the need is lessened by the attention they routinely get.
Art making and self-expression is very satisfying for many young people that
have faced hurt, rejection, and confusion. It has been my experience that
high school counselors tend to tap into the art department staff, knowing
that useful information to help particular kids often rise in the art room
envirnoment!
That art making tends to give the rejected a sense of empowerment is one
reason many prison inmates develop into some very fine artists, and IMHO if
the government were serious about their defense of punitive time being
rehabilitative, they would be wise to develop well staffed and supplied art
departments in all medium and maximum security systems.
Larry Seiler
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Do you have a specific lesson plan for the posters? I love the poster idea. I
just need some suggestions for the discussion questions. Thanks. This is for
second grade.
Cindy
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Sharon Henneborn wrote:
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> I think you can assume that the word Libertarian means a very
> different thing to Oscar in Brazil than it does in US of A. We have
> been through this before when he tried to share his art and art
> lessons with us. Please welcome him and cut him a break. If you have
> never lived in a foreign country and experienced the communication
> bombs maybe you are not sensitive to the possibilities.
Amen to that! Sharon is absolutely correct. It's appalling that people
who earnestly incorporate "multicultural" learning in their curricula
would be insensitive to someone from outside the US sharing his corner
of the world with us. Like Sharon, I've pulled my share of foreign
language boners, though with lots of laughter at my expense and some
gentle corrections. Appreciate Oscar and what he's trying to contribute
to the list.
Maggie
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I have students photograph work and create and maintain web pages. Check
them out at http://www.hpsd.k12.pa.us
Go to the Middle School, then Student Art.
They are currently featuring an animation program which gives some people
problems loading. We are working on a solution to this.
We do not list names of students or pictures, only the work itself.
I'm looking for art departments who post student art work on the web. My
K-12 department is working on a web site and creating elctronic portfolios
for students. We received two large grants from the state of WI for
equipment and training. The final product will be a CD with student art,
department curriculum, accessment documents, etc. on it. These will be
given to the selected students, shown to fellow teachers and
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"The 'C' students run the world."
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I agree with Larry and feel I have to add that in our school I have some
of the pierced ones and the drama department has the rest - I think
Larry's philosophy about "finding your place" holds true for all the arts.
Sue E. Stewart
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I was unable to open the attached list, does anyone have a copy they could =
forward or mail. I would really appreciate it.
>>> PrimaryE@aol.com 10/27/00 06:12PM >>>
Judy, I love the list. Thanks so much. Eileen
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Subject: Re: Crazy Kids and empowerment
A good place to view art work created by mentally and emotionally
challenged individuals is the American Visionary Museum in Baltimore, MD.
Ann-on-y-mouse in Columbus
>That art making tends to give the rejected a sense of empowerment
>rehabilitative, they would be wise to develop well staffed and supplied art
>departments in all medium and maximum security systems.
>Larry Seiler
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I'm working on a wish list (already 4 pages long). The idea is that some
people will only donate for a specific thing not the general operating fund.
I was looking for children's books about Jacob Lawrence and found two
videos, but no age range is given. What do you know about Jacob Lawrence -
An Intimate Portrait or Jacob Lawrence: The Glory of Expressio? If you
recommend them, for what age ranges are they designed?
Kimberly Herbert (kimberly@wcc.net)
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In a message dated 11/2/00 9:20:04 AM Eastern Standard Time, occti@acorn.net
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Hey, Lar, VERY true! I forgot about that quote!
But the Art Nazi is running the room!
(I'm smiling)
Holly :0)
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<BR>Hey, Lar, VERY true! I forgot about that quote!
<BR>But the Art Nazi is running the room!
<BR> (I'm smiling)
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From: Melissa Enderle <melissa@afribone.net.ml>
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Hi all,
I'm glad to hear that many of you have been enjoying my posts. I
often think of things to write at inopportune times, such as when
walking to school, but don't always have the mental energy to write
them when I get to my computer at night.
Anyway, I'll begin with Halloween. Mainly for the ex-pats and other
families working in Mali, the American Embassy and our school hosted
a Halloween trick-or-treat. Homes of expats and around the
Badalabougou area volunteered to be a place where the children could
stop for treats. The school was the starting point and also had
candy. I decided to go and help out at the school, partly because I
knew they would need help and also because I have not gone to one of
the 2 "supermarche" stores in well over a month. Kids (mostly those
who attended our school) began descending on the school entryway,
accompanied mostly by their parent(s) and sometimes by a driver. A
few used commercially-made costumes, but many had more creative,
individually (perhaps by one of the local tailors) made costumes. Or,
they simply improvised with the clothing or materials they had at
home. Of course there were quite a few witches, some ghouls and
vampires, and a few dressed up as cats or dinosaurs in full costume.
Some had makeup on as well. Children were carrying the plastic
pumpkin containers or plastic bags.
It was quite the sight - all the kids in costumes walking through the
terracotta dirt road - past the goats eating leaves or grass, and
past the local people. For the locals who don't even understand the
whole concept behind Halloween and trick-or-treating, you can imagine
why they had looks of either puzzlement, surprise, and perhaps more.
Why, when you really think about it, would any sweet child suddenly
wear plastic fangs in their mouth, garish makeup, and a dark costume?
As I began handing out candy, I noticed the local children. Some were
playing soccer (they have to be careful where they are playing, for
if they hit the ball too far in two directions, the ball could land
in the open sewer) and others were either standing around, playing
with the handmade toys, or helping at a local produce stand. Knowing
that they probably haven't had candy in quite a while (and certainly
not Halloween candy), I brought the bowl closer to a few. At my
urging they each took a piece. Well, word soon spread, and I was
giving a way quite a bit of the candy. You should have seen their
faces though - it was if they were given a precious gift!
Yesterday the power went out at my house duplex, much like it often
does. Like other times, the guardian turned on the generator. The
generator ran for about an hour, then power was restored - except to
me, the upstairs duplex resident. Knowing that there was nothing
electrically that could be attended to until morning, I resided to
reading by candlelight and working on the computer with only the
light of the monitor. (Aren't laptops great!?!) The school secretary
- a Malian (she speaks fluent French, Bambara, and excellent English)
called two electricians that the school works with. One finally came
about 3:30 in the afternoon and fixed the problem. At school around
10:40, the power went off, then on, then off again. The school's
generator went on but began smoking - a major part had broken. So,
all afternoon, the school had no power. No power meant no computer
work. After finishing some miscellaneous tasks,I took some reading
about wireless networks with me and read on the picnic benches
outside the lab - the area where the kids eat lunch.
It sure would be nice to have some type of backup power for the
computers, but they are quite costly. If anyone knows of a company
that might be willing to either donate some UPS battery backup
systems or similar things for our small school (or at least give a
reduced price), I would be most grateful.
For many local people (nearly all in the local villages), electricity
outages aren't a concern - there simply isn't any electricity. So, I
guess I should just look at the whole situation as a minor
inconvenience and take it as another memorable aspect of Mali.
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<div>Hi all,</div>
<div><br></div>
<div>I'm glad to hear that many of you have been enjoying my posts. I
often think of things to write at inopportune times, such as when
walking to school, but don't always have the mental energy to write
them when I get to my computer at night.</div>
<div><br></div>
<div>Anyway, I'll begin with Halloween. Mainly for the ex-pats and
other families working in Mali, the American Embassy and our school
hosted a Halloween trick-or-treat. Homes of expats and around the
Badalabougou area volunteered to be a place where the children could
stop for treats. The school was the starting point and also had
candy. I decided to go and help out at the school, partly because I
knew they would need help and also because I have not gone to one of
the 2 "supermarche" stores in well over a month. Kids
(mostly those who attended our school) began descending on the school
entryway, accompanied mostly by their parent(s) and sometimes by a
driver. A few used commercially-made costumes, but many had more
creative, individually (perhaps by one of the local tailors) made
costumes. Or, they simply improvised with the clothing or materials
they had at home. Of course there were quite a few witches, some
ghouls and vampires, and a few dressed up as cats or dinosaurs in
full costume. Some had makeup on as well. Children were carrying the
plastic pumpkin containers or plastic bags.</div>
<div><br></div>
<div>It was quite the sight - all the kids in costumes walking
through the terracotta dirt road - past the goats eating leaves or
grass, and past the local people. For the locals who don't even
understand the whole concept behind Halloween and trick-or-treating,
you can imagine why they had looks of either puzzlement, surprise,
and perhaps more. Why, when you really think about it, would any
sweet child suddenly wear plastic fangs in their mouth, garish
makeup, and a dark costume?</div>
<div><br></div>
<div>As I began handing out candy, I noticed the local children. Some
were playing soccer (they have to be careful where they are playing,
for if they hit the ball too far in two directions, the ball could
land in the open sewer) and others were either standing around,
playing with the handmade toys, or helping at a local produce stand.
Knowing that they probably haven't had candy in quite a while (and
certainly not Halloween candy), I brought the bowl closer to a few.
At my urging they each took a piece. Well, word soon spread, and I
was giving a way quite a bit of the candy. You should have seen their
faces though - it was if they were given a precious gift!</div>
<div><br></div>
<div>Yesterday the power went out at my house duplex, much like it
often does. Like other times, the guardian turned on the generator.
The generator ran for about an hour, then power was restored - except
to me, the upstairs duplex resident. Knowing that there was nothing
electrically that could be attended to until morning, I resided to
reading by candlelight and working on the computer with only the
light of the monitor. (Aren't laptops great!?!) The school secretary
- a Malian (she speaks fluent French, Bambara, and excellent English)
called two electricians that the school works with. One finally came
about 3:30 in the afternoon and fixed the problem. At school around
10:40, the power went off, then on, then off again. The
school's generator went on but began smoking - a major part had
broken. So, all afternoon, the school had no power. No power meant no
computer work. After finishing some miscellaneous tasks,I took some
reading about wireless networks with me and read on the picnic
benches outside the lab - the area where the kids eat lunch.</div>
<div><br></div>
<div><i>It sure would be nice to have some type of backup power for
the computers, but they are quite costly. If anyone knows of a
company that might be willing to either donate some UPS battery
backup systems or similar things for our small school (or at least
give a reduced price), I would be most grateful.</i></div>
<div><i><br></i></div>
<div>For many local people (nearly all in the local villages),
electricity outages aren't a concern - there simply isn't any
electricity. So, I guess I should just look at the whole situation as
a minor inconvenience and take it as another memorable aspect of
Mali.</div>
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Faculty Vacancy -- Assistant Professor
Art Education
The University of Florida School of Art and Art History, College of
Fine Arts, invites applications for a tenure-track faculty position
with a specialization in art education. The position's starting date
is August 10, 2001.
Responsibilities: Teach undergraduate courses in education methods
for both art majors and elementary education majors; teach graduate
courses in art education; supervise student teaching; conduct a
program of scholarly research appropriate to the discipline;
contribute appropriately in the area of service to the university,
community and the profession.
Qualifications: Excellent scholar and committed teacher; Ph.D. or
Ed.D. in Art Education required; minimum of three years experience
teaching art K-12; university teaching experience beyond graduate
assistantship; evidence of publication and professional service in
art education; demonstrated expertise in one or more of the following
areas: special education; early childhood, elementary or middle
school art education; art assessment; museum education; preservice
teacher education; inservice teacher training; critical theory and
pedagogy; or alternative art education.
Rank and salary: Assistant Professor; Nine month salary commensurate
with qualifications and experience.
University of Florida: The University of Florida is a comprehensive,
graduate research institution with 45,000 students and membership in
the AAU. Gainesville, which is consistently ranked as one of the
nation's most livable cities, is located midway between the Gulf of
Mexico and the Atlantic Ocean. Together the university and the
community comprise an educational, medical and cultural center for
North Central Florida, with outstanding resources such as the
Phillips Center for the Performing Arts, the Harn Museum of Art, the
Florida Museum of Natural History, and the Hippodrome State Theater.
School of Art and Art History: The School of Art and Art History,
organized within the College of Fine Arts, plays an important role in
the academic life of the university and in the community. The School
has 34 full-time faculty with approximately 600 art majors. Degree
programs include the B.A., B.F.A., M.A., and M.F.A. Areas of study
include General Art Studies, Art History, Art Education, Museum
Studies, Visual Arts (majors in Ceramics, Creative Photography,
Drawing, Digital Arts and Sciences, Electronic Intermedia, Graphic
Design, Painting, Printmaking, and Sculpture). All degree programs
are accredited by NASAD and the Southern Association of Colleges and
Schools. The School of Art and Art History homepage is located at
http://www.arts.ufl.edu/.
Application Deadline: March 1, 2001
Application Procedures: Applicants should submit a detailed letter of
application, a statement of teaching philosophy, a professional
resume, appropriate documentation of recent work, off prints/copies
of representative publications, documentation of students' work if
available, and SASE for return of materials; and the names,
addresses, e-mail addresses, and telephone numbers of three
references who have been asked to send letters of recommendation
written specifically for this position directly to:
Art Education Search
School of Art and Art History
PO Box 115801
University of Florida
Gainesville, FL 32611-5801
The University of Florida is an Equal Opportunity Affirmative Action
Employer. Women and minorities are encouraged to apply. The
"government in the sunshine" law of Florida requires that all
documents relating to the search process, including letters of
application/nomination and reference, be available for public
inspection.
____________________________________________________________________________
CRAIG ROLAND Associate Professor of Art Education
School of Art and Art History - University of Florida
PO Box 115801, Gainesville Florida 32611-5801
Art Ed Office: 352.392.9165 Fax: 352-392-8453
homepage: http://grove.ufll.edu/~rolandc/homepage.html
visit the @rt room at: http://www.arts.ufl.edu/art/rt_room/
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<bold><fontfamily><param>Times_New_Roman</param><bigger><bigger>Faculty
Vacancy -- Assistant Professor
Art Education
</bigger></bigger></fontfamily></bold><fontfamily><param>Times_New_Roman</pa=
ram>The
University of Florida School of Art and Art History, College of Fine
Arts, invites applications for a tenure-track faculty position with a
specialization in art education. The position's starting date is
August 10, 2001.
<bold>Responsibilities:</bold> Teach undergraduate courses in education
methods for both art majors and elementary education majors; teach
graduate courses in art education; supervise student teaching; conduct
a program of scholarly research appropriate to the discipline;
contribute appropriately in the area of service to the university,
community and the profession.
<bold>Qualifications:</bold> Excellent scholar and committed teacher;
Ph.D. or Ed.D. in Art Education required; minimum of three years
experience teaching art K-12; university teaching experience beyond
graduate assistantship; evidence of publication and professional
service in art education; demonstrated expertise in one or more of the
following areas: special education; early childhood, elementary or
middle school art education; art assessment; museum education;
preservice teacher education; inservice teacher training; critical
theory and pedagogy; or alternative art education.
<bold>Rank and salary:</bold> Assistant Professor; Nine month salary
commensurate with qualifications and experience.
<bold>University of Florida</bold>: The University of Florida is a
comprehensive, graduate research institution with 45,000 students and
membership in the AAU. Gainesville, which is consistently ranked as one
of the nation's most livable cities, is located midway between the Gulf
of Mexico and the Atlantic Ocean. Together the university and the
community comprise an educational, medical and cultural center for
North Central Florida, with outstanding resources such as the Phillips
Center for the Performing Arts, the Harn Museum of Art, the Florida
Museum of Natural History, and the Hippodrome State Theater.
<bold>School of Art and Art History</bold>: The School of Art and Art
History, organized within the College of Fine Arts, plays an important
role in the academic life of the university and in the community. The
School has 34 full-time faculty with approximately 600 art majors.=20
Degree programs include the B.A., B.F.A., M.A., and M.F.A. Areas of
study include General Art Studies, Art History, Art Education, Museum
Studies, Visual Arts (majors in Ceramics, Creative Photography,
Drawing, Digital Arts and Sciences, Electronic Intermedia, Graphic
Design, Painting, Printmaking, and Sculpture). All degree programs are
accredited by NASAD and the Southern Association of Colleges and
Schools. The School of Art and Art History homepage is located at
<underline><color><param>0000,0000,00FF</param>http://www.arts.ufl.edu/=
or></underline>.
<bold>Application Deadline:</bold> March 1, 2001
<bold>Application Procedures</bold>: Applicants should submit a
detailed letter of application, a statement of teaching philosophy, a
professional resume, appropriate documentation of recent work, off
prints/copies of representative publications, documentation of
students' work if available, and SASE for return of materials; and the
names, addresses, e-mail addresses, and telephone numbers of three
references who have been asked to send letters of recommendation
written specifically for this position directly to:
Art Education Search
School of Art and Art History
PO Box 115801
University of Florida
Gainesville, FL 32611-5801
<bold><smaller>The University of Florida is an Equal Opportunity
Affirmative Action Employer. Women and minorities are encouraged to
apply. The "government in the sunshine" law of Florida requires that
all documents relating to the search process, including letters of
application/nomination and reference, be available for public
inspection.
</smaller></bold></fontfamily>
____________________________________________________________________________
CRAIG ROLAND Associate Professor of Art Education
School of Art and Art History - University of Florida
PO Box 115801, Gainesville Florida 32611-5801
Art Ed Office: 352.392.9165 Fax: 352-392-8453
homepage: http://grove.ufll.edu/~rolandc/homepage.html
visit the @rt room at: http://www.arts.ufl.edu/art/rt_room/
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<< Can anyone tell me what is the difference between Japanese and Chinese
brush
painting techniques....or are there any? Thanks......toodles.....Bunki >>
BUnki,
One is from China and one is from Japan. Hope this clears things up.
hahahahahahahahahahaha
sorry, couldn't stop myself
Gabrielle
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>><< Can anyone tell me what is the difference between Japanese and Chinese
>> brush>> painting techniques....or are there any?
Thanks......toodles.....Bunki >>
> BUnki,
> One is from China and one is from Japan. Hope this clears things up.
> hahahahahahahahahahaha
> sorry, couldn't stop myself> Gabrielle
***********************
Thanks for sharing your witful knowledge, Gabrielle. Anyone ELSE has
anything to add? IS there a difference? Bunki.......
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I, too, am doing a peace poster contest with my 6th graders. They all
will
receive a certificate of participation and one will get 50.00. I tied
it into
the principles of design and discussed symbols, and their use in art. I
get a little discouraged at
all who want to make worlds with people around them. I'm trying to get
them to
think in different terms and purposely stayed away from images of the
world.
Some of the posters are wonderful, most are typical. I am open to some
suggestions and would
appreciate all advice. Thanks, Betsy
PS, Our state (Indiana) has now mandated the use of Baldridge Criteria
for
continuous improvement. They ( Our Administration) will be going to San
Diego
in the Spring to give a talk on this and how it works. It was
origionally set up
for businesses, I beleive . Get ready San Diego... Betsy
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Help....I need a way to color white play sand without using powdered tempera!
I need the information ASAP so I can get supplies rounded up for Monday
morning.
Thanks to everyone!
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Do Digital Photography.
>>> ytsirk_uno@yahoo.com 10/30 6:26 PM >>>
Has technology caught up with traditional artforms?=20
Are teachers of the "hands on" old school of art being
pushed aside for state of the "art" digital and
computer graphics imagery. Every art teacher has their
niche or preference of media and will teach according
to their strengths.
A situation has risen in our school district where a
new addition to the school is planned. This presents
an opportunity for a new artroom facility. The present
artroom has a photography darkroom basically for Grade
11 classes. The new plans have eliminated this
photo-lab set up and have gone with a basic room
design with little more than an island sink at the
back of the room to conduct art classes. Eventhough
teachers have had an opportunity for input, there is a
difference of opinion as to a darkroom verses computer
technology.
Help needed! How have you dealt with this type of
situation? If there are schools out there that have
recently undergone rennovations to their artrooms what
has been included and what has been left out?=20
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I have no idea yet They said in the letter that if we had more than one
proposal then we could assume that we were accepted for the one not listed.
If this is true and I am doing this I will be notified of the schedule later.
This will be a hands on deal using the createx paints, vellum, gum Arabic and
rolling pin presses. Createx is funding a bag of samples and products for
all the participants, so that you can go home and do it immediately.
If I get a schedule I will let you know.
Ken Schwab
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I cannot tell you an a simple answer, however if you asked a Chinese or =
Japanese artist they would. As a westerner I see differences in some =
periods/dynasties but many times I cannot. They both share similar =
histories of development with religious and secular affiliations to =
calligraphy and painting. Each has a rich tradition of art or "beautiful =
skill" as the Chinese call "art", begin your research because it will =
fascinate you. Find out about the "four treasures", and try them out.
>>> bkramer@srvusd.k12.ca.us 11/01 7:32 PM >>>
from: Bunki Kramer (bkramer@srvusd.k12.ca.us)
Los Cerros Middle School
968 Blemer Road
Danville, CA 94526
http://ww2.lcms.srvusd.k12.ca.us/faculty/faculty.html=20
************************
Can anyone tell me what is the difference between Japanese and Chinese =
brush
painting techniques....or are there any? Thanks......toodles.....Bunki
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The kids were wonderful. I just threw out the idea of how we can live more
peaceful
lives and we did some role playing for certain situations. For instance the
problem of sharing always comes up - how can we share with each other - with
someone who is different etc. We role play different ages, sexes, etc. they
come up with some wonderful ideas and love to illustrate them. I then tie in
composition, perspective
(simple overlap and horizon line) etc. As I said it is sponsored by Martin
Luther
King Day - our poster that won first place in fourth grade showed the United
States
and Africa with arms reaching across the ocean to shake hands. Can;t remember
what the other second place winners were. Good luck with you ideas. Roberta
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My student teacher wants to do a lesson about molas and use colored sand( see
other email). I'm trying to help but can't make a connection between the two.
If anyone has any ideas or can enlighten me, please do so!
Thank you for all your help.
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>> Another Art Nazi, thought I was the only one!
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Gelato
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> Hey, Lar, VERY true! I forgot about that quote!
> But the Art Nazi is running the room!
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Could she be thinking of mandalas and colored sand?
Heather
Rgart58@aol.com wrote:
> My student teacher wants to do a lesson about molas and use colored sand(
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wjbaas@execpc.com wrote
>> > Another Art Nazi, thought I was the only one!
>>
> Gelato
Art Nazi ? ! "AHHHH Verrrrrrry intersting"
Was Artie Johnson( hope the name is right) also an ART Nazi?
Oh Boy, I'm giving my age away-lol.
MaryB
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So far as I know, the japanesse actually "stole" this art form from the
Chinese. Japanese scholars travelled to China and came back with the
techniques, and turned it into Sumi-e painting, and a couple of other
styles. It is one of the "perfections", along with poetry and
calligraphy.
Dang, I just read about the names of the different styles...Ill try and
find it.
Anna
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In a message dated 10/30/00 8:10:07 AM Eastern Standard Time,
ESears@Anchorage.k12.ky.us writes:
<< the new Smithsonian just came - great article on the Pageant of Masters (
works of art are recreated with human subjects) -
Ellen
>>
Ellen,
I just went through the new Smithsonian mag, the one with the Art Nouveux
fiqurine on the cover, and I couldn't find the article or photos. Were there
photos too? I'm assuming I have the right issue but, then again , you know
what happens when you assume...
Thanx
Gabrielle
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Subject: Re: Help with colored sand
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could you use colored chalk? or is powdered pigment part of the problem?
Susan Holland
Visual Art Studies
University of Texas at Austin
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Mandala is what came into my mind too. Tibetan Monks make them with colored
sand
artsednet@lists.getty.edu writes:
>Could she be thinking of mandalas and colored sand?
>Heather
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>Rgart58@aol.com wrote:
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>> My student teacher wants to do a lesson about molas and use colored sand(
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I'm thinking ahead a few steps (imagine that!), trying to figure out how =
my younger students will paint their gargoyles. They'll be using =
plastercraft over newspaper and cardboard, and I was thinking it would =
be cool to give a stone-like appearance to the paint.
While the plastercraft will probably give them enough texture, I was =
just wondering if some sand mixed with the tempera would help with this =
effect. But I don't know if the sand would stick in the tempera without =
something to bind it. Any suggestions?
To see some of their other projects in the Middle Ages unit (along with =
pics of gargoyles in progress), please stop by:
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Sharon
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Funny you should say that about atheletes. Just today my son, who is a superb
soccer player, was not bragging about the attention he gets for being a great
soccer player, but the praise he gets when he does art work at school! He is
a very talented artist, much more than me, but also loves music (plays the
trombone) and other activities. Being an accomplished artist at 12 helps him
stand out in his crowd of friends, who are all very good atheletes.
Me, I have four popular, accomplished sisters. I was gauky (sp?) and unsure
of myself and never felt special until I discovered I was an artist at 13.
When my students asked me why I teach art, I tell them it makes me feel
special. And I like to share that feeling with my students.
:-) Janet
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colored sidewalk chalk rubbed on the sand works very well.
k.Mack
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> Help....I need a way to color white play sand without using powdered
tempera!
> I need the information ASAP so I can get supplies rounded up for Monday
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Last year when I did sandpainting with my younger kids (5th & 6th graders)
we used liquid tempera, and dried it in shallow trays. Problem was that it
clumped up something awful as it dried!
HOWEVER, this led to a discussion of how the Native Americans (and also
Tibetan monks) would grind up different rocks to produce colored sand, so
this was worked into the project--kids would just grab a chunk of a
particular color and grind it into a container.
We spent one class period grinding up our "problem," and then we used it for
sandpainting the next day.
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Another Art Nazi, thought I was the only one!
Gelato
Hey, Lar, VERY true! I forgot about that quote!
But the Art Nazi is running the room!
(I'm smiling)
Take the quote to heart then and be an enlightened Nazi - or be a
Roosevelt (walk softly and carry a big stick '>) !)
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Hi MARTY
I'm interested- I must have missed the info.
What's the price per pound?
How do I get them...
Thanks Jeanie
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Hi Gabrielle,
The article you are looking for is in the November issue of the Smithsonian.
It's the one with the Lincoln momentoes on the cover.
Sky
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Dear Sharon,
I loved the Sculpey castles you made. Could you tell me - did you bake
all those castles in the oven before they were painted? If so, did you
take them home and use your own oven? I ordered Sculpey but I don't
like the idea of baking it.
Thanks,
Sky
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In a message dated 11/1/00 10:01:09 PM, heneborn@erols.com writes:
<< Arty, what is the problem? It is just his web site with his art and
art lessons on it or am I missing something? Am I remembering
correctly that English is Oscar's second language? >>
Thank you Sharon.
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Hi--
Yep, I baked all the castles at home. This wasn't too bad, in that only one
class was making them. Last spring my upper school students (4 classes of
them) made wire and sculpey figures
(http://www.art-rageous.net/WireandSculpeyFigures.html ), and EVERY NIGHT
for about a week I was baking various body parts!
While it's an inconvenience, I really like working with this material. We
don't have an operational kiln, so this is about the only "clay" experience
that my students have. And while Sculpey is expensive, it's cheaper than
Model Magic (and that's a "pickier" substance, anyhow).
I just use white sculpey and sometimes smaller parts will scorch in the
oven, but this isn't a problem since we paint them anyhow. I like the fact
that it doesn't air dry, so kids don't have to do anything special to it
between work sessions. :-)
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Marty, The magnets were before I joined this group. Could you send me info
about them?
Thanks,
Cindy Erickson
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> Hi MARTY
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> I'm interested- I must have missed the info.
> What's the price per pound?
> How do I get them...
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> Thanks Jeanie
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Or Navajo sand paintings?
Heather Leal wrote:
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> Could she be thinking of mandalas and colored sand?
> Heather
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> Rgart58@aol.com wrote:
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> > My student teacher wants to do a lesson about molas and use colored sand(
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Heavy fog in SW Michigan this morning. We are a urban district, so
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You can use Liquid Watercolors=81 (available from Discount School Supply), or
you can do heavy use of food coloring.
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=20
> Help....I need a way to color white play sand without using powdered temp=
era!
> I need the information ASAP so I can get supplies rounded up for Monday
> morning.
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You can use liquid tempera too...just spread the colored sand out on
newspaper to dry.
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> Help....I need a way to color white play sand without using powdered tempera!
> I need the information ASAP so I can get supplies rounded up for Monday
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FYI Liquid Watercolors can also be found on page 30 in the Sax catalog.
Judy
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You can use Liquid Watercolors=81 (available from Discount School Supply)=
, or
you can do heavy use of food coloring.
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> Help....I need a way to color white play sand without using powdered
tempera!
> I need the information ASAP so I can get supplies rounded up for Monday
> morning.
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I'm so happy to hear that!! I love those liquid watercolors, and it's good
to know they are not just in one catalog only. Hooray for Sax.
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> FYI Liquid Watercolors can also be found on page 30 in the Sax catalog.
> Judy
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Rick,
I just came upon the ONE World posters from Teaching Tolerence. They should
be available to schools ( free of charge?) and they come with a teachers
guide. There are eight posters from various artists along with quotes. They
give some good discussion guides. I also thought I would play John Lennon's
Imagine song and put out a banner in which they can write down their "dream"
for the world and sign it.
Rick wrote:
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Thanks so much. I'm feeling very inspired
Rdunkelart@aol.com wrote:
> The kids were wonderful. I just threw out the idea of how we can live more
> peaceful
> lives and we did some role playing for certain situations. For instance the
> problem of sharing always comes up - how can we share with each other - with
> someone who is different etc. We role play different ages, sexes, etc. they
> come up with some wonderful ideas and love to illustrate them. I then tie in
> composition, perspective
> (simple overlap and horizon line) etc. As I said it is sponsored by Martin
> Luther
> King Day - our poster that won first place in fourth grade showed the United
> States
> and Africa with arms reaching across the ocean to shake hands. Can;t remember
> what the other second place winners were. Good luck with you ideas. Roberta
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How do I get ahold of a Sax catalog? do they have an 800 #?
Cindy
MaryAnn Kohl wrote:
> I'm so happy to hear that!! I love those liquid watercolors, and it's good
> to know they are not just in one catalog only. Hooray for Sax.
> --------------------------------
> MaryAnn F. Kohl
> maryann@brightring.com
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> > FYI Liquid Watercolors can also be found on page 30 in the Sax catalog.
> > Judy
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http://www.saxarts.com/catalog.html
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> How do I get ahold of a Sax catalog? do they have an 800 #?
> Cindy
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Thanks Cindy! I really like the idea of the John Lennon song. I did use the
covers of some of the magazines of Teaching Tolerance- The posters I never saw.
Thanks again, Betsy
Cindy Schmidt wrote:
> Rick,
>
> I just came upon the ONE World posters from Teaching Tolerence. They should
> be available to schools ( free of charge?) and they come with a teachers
> guide. There are eight posters from various artists along with quotes. They
> give some good discussion guides. I also thought I would play John Lennon's
> Imagine song and put out a banner in which they can write down their "dream"
> for the world and sign it.
>
> Rick wrote:
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I am not sure if I got this from someone on the list or not, but since a few
of you were discussing lessons on peace....I thought you might find this
helpful.
Heather :)
<A HREF="http://rosella.apana.org.au/~mlb/cranes/million.htm">Click here:
Thousand Cranes Peace Network - A Million Paper Cranes for Peace</A>
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Ok- first of all I'm not a pro at Asian art forms in case someone becomes
offended- but I've been really into Japanese Sumi-e painting for the past
couple of years. I believe that there are a lot of similarities between the
two- probably because they were so close geographically. Chinese brush
painting seems to encompass tons of different styles from delicate
watercolor looking techniques to powerful calligraphic paintings that
resemble some fantastic action painting. Japanese brush painting varies as
well but sumi-e painting has a certain look to it. It's a very disciplined
style of painting with particular brushstrokes that make up other objects.
Like there is one brushstroke that could be used to make a leaf or 5 of
those brushstrokes together to make a bird. The only way I can describe
sumi-e is that they do the most with the very least amount of painting.
I've got a lesson on Japanese Screens and Scrolls (where I teach sumi-e) at
http://www.learnnc.com/learnnc/lessonp.nsf. Just search for Japanese
Screens and you'll find 3 lessons that are part of the unit.
Michelle H. Harrell
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Picasso did a series of images for peace. There are ones
with the dove and probably the most recognized from this
series would be the bouquet of flowers being held by 2
hands from opposite sides, with the flowers in the
center.
Also, go to google and put in "peace symbols". You will
get quite a few sites. Here are some:
http://www.people4peace.com/links/banners.htm
Sadako:
http://rosella.apana.org.au/~mlb/cranes/bombpix.htm
Hope that helps!
Vivian
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Is Larry another Art Nazi???
If it weren't for the troubled kids, I wouldn't have any classes!!!! :-) Deb
W.
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anna wrote:
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> So far as I know, the japanesse actually "stole" this art form from the
> Chinese. Japanese scholars travelled to China and came back with the
> techniques, and turned it into Sumi-e painting, and a couple of other
> styles. It is one of the "perfections", along with poetry and
> calligraphy.
Well, "stole" is a rather harsh term to use. My references say that
Buddhist priests from China brought the art to Japan, which adopted it
readily.
Bunki, I talked with the exchange student today. He brought a book with
comparisons between Chinese art and Western art. He still couldn't
explain how he can tell Chinese from Japanese brush painting, other than
he thinks the Japanese style is "simpler"--by which I think he means the
compositions tended to be simpler and less detailed. He also thinks the
Japanese faces are drawn more like cartoons. Mind you, this is a
teenager infatuated with the West, so he probably hasn't studied Asian
art with any great interest.
As we looked through a couple of my books together, we noted that the
Japanese scenes are often done from a high vantage point, with roofs
removed from interiors so the viewer can look down into the houses.
Here's a couple of quotes from one book:
"According to records, at least from the 8th century Chinese subjects
and scenes on screens were used to decorate and partition rooms at the
Imperial Palace...Secular paintings with Japanese themes and scenery
became increasingly popular in the 10th century...Stylistically,
both...derived from the same brightly pigmented and richly detailed
color painting tradition of Tang China."
"The Japanization of culture...is noticeable in all fields, especially
from the second half of the Heian period (794-1185)...in the ninth
century, the Japanese broke diplomatic relations with China. As a
result, although the Japanese still widely acknowledged the Chinese
contribution to their culture, they increasingly developed a deep-seated
pride in their own indigenous traditions. In the arts, a highly refined
aesthetic evolved that derived from a proufound appreciation of the
Japanese landscape and climate."
So, this is probably more than you really wanted to know, and doesn't
really answer your question. Could we infer that there's probably not
much difference stylistically, but in subject matter?
Maggie
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In a message dated 11/3/00 5:08:59 AM Eastern Standard Time,
skygeoff@home.com writes:
<<
The article you are looking for is in the November issue of the Smithsonian.
It's the one with the Lincoln momentoes on the cover.
Sky
>>
Thanks Sky! I didn't even look for a date. I asked the counter person at
borders to help me find it and that's not the one I saw.
I'm very passionate about the Pageant of the Masters. I've been following it
for a few years now. I'm trying to work it into my advance class this spring.
Peace
Gabrielle
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In a message dated 11/3/00 7:25:45 PM Pacific Standard Time,
mwhiteaz@cybertrails.com writes:
> So, this is probably more than you really wanted to know, and doesn't
> really answer your question. Could we infer that there's probably not
> much difference stylistically, but in subject matter?
>
> Maggie
>
>
I took a some courses of Chinese brush painting in Singapore, and from my
learning there I know that both Chinese and Japanese painting is based on ink
and the brush stroke.
Chinese traditionally tends to have more detail and more color and is more
refined, generally, and Japanese traditionally tends to be black ink, fewer
colors and fewer details, again generally.
A few examples of both illustrates this well and its not too hard to
distinguish them after a time.
Artie.
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<BR><BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=CITE style="BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px">So, this is probably more than you really wanted to know, and doesn't
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<BR>much difference stylistically, but in subject matter?
<BR>
<BR>Maggie
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<BR>I took a some courses of Chinese brush painting in Singapore, and from my <BR>learning there I know that both Chinese and Japanese painting is based on ink <BR>and the brush stroke.
<BR>Chinese traditionally tends to have more detail and more color and is more <BR>refined, generally, and Japanese traditionally tends to be black ink, fewer <BR>colors and fewer details, again generally.
<BR>A few examples of both illustrates this well and its not too hard to <BR>distinguish them after a time.
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Know of people looking for a job? Pass this along to them.
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> We have a number of immediate art openings in Charlotte-Mecklenburg, NC.
> - 2 elementary,
> 2 middle,
> and 1 alternative school.
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> If anyone knows of teachers looking for positions, please let Dean Johns
know
> (704-444-2658.) We also will be opening 6 new schools next year.
> Applications can be downloaded from the CMS web site - www.cms.k12.nc.us
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Use salt instead of sand. Sand is difficult to dye. I was a dinner the
other night and the sister of the hostess had made the most delightful center
pieces by using food color and regular table salt that she had purchased from
the local dollar store. She poured the sand in mason jars and decorated the
lids with silk flowers. Sand is silica so it is very difficult to color. The
salt is porus, so color is beautifully absorbed into it.
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<HTML><BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"><FONT COLOR="#0000ff" SIZE=2 FACE="Metro" LANG="0">Use salt instead of sand. Sand is difficult to dye. I was a dinner the <BR>other night and the sister of the hostess had made the most delightful center <BR>pieces by using food color and regular table salt that she had purchased from <BR>the local dollar store. She poured the sand in mason jars and decorated the <BR>lids with silk flowers. Sand is silica so it is very difficult to color. The <BR>salt is porus, so color is beautifully absorbed into it.</FONT></HTML>
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Dear Pennsylvania Arts Educators,
Another month has passed already! How are your lessons and projects
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Anyone out there have a good source for individual art prints?
Inexpensive?
Thanks,
Kimberly
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Subject: marbelizing paper
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I am trying a marbleized paper technique. It uses a liquid starch poured into
a cake pan and colored chalk. The students shave chalk dust onto the starch
where it floats. They can drag patterns or swirl the colors, then lift a print
by laying paper on the surface. I think the starch can be thinned with water.
I want to use this in a lesson about Japanese prints. I'm wondering if this is
an intellectually honest way to represent Suminagashi, a water print technique
that uses floating ink.
Susan Holland
Visual Art Studies
University of Texas at Austin
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I don't ,now how"good" you want them to be, but I have wonderful luck with
buying calenders of art reporoductions and then separating and laminating
them. THat way they are a bit stronger and can be ahndeled by the kids
without as much fear of dammage.
Crystal Publications has good brpints also in a variety of classifications
but they are not inexpensive.
Hope this helps. ALice Ann in Bowling Green
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This technique can be done successfully with just plain water with chalk
floated on top.
Leah
> I am trying a marbleized paper technique. It uses a liquid starch poured
into
> a cake pan and colored chalk. The students shave chalk dust onto the
starch
> where it floats. They can drag patterns or swirl the colors, then lift a
print
> by laying paper on the surface. I think the starch can be thinned with
water.
>
> I want to use this in a lesson about Japanese prints. I'm wondering if
this is
> an intellectually honest way to represent Suminagashi, a water print
technique
> that uses floating ink.
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There's a great book out entitled Teaching Art with Books Kids Love, which
would be perfect for what you are looking for. The author is Darcie Clark
Frohardt, published by Fulcrum Publishing. The ISBN is 1-55591-406-3,
published in 1999.
www.fulcrum-resources.com $17.95
Hope this helps!
Holly
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Art Image Publications is a good source for individual prints. They are very
reasonable. I can get more information on them if you are interested.
Holly
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Kimberly,
I can't help you out with the videos, but at school I do have a picture =
book about Harriet Tubman illustrated by Jacob Lawrence. I'm not sure =
who wrote the text, but it's in poem format. A very nice book!
-Lydia in Toledo
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<< Cranes >>
Thanks for the great website on Peace (The Thousand Cranes Peace Network).
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> I'm thinking ahead a few steps (imagine that!), trying to figure out
> how my younger students will paint their gargoyles. They'll be using
> plastercraft over newspaper and cardboard, and I was thinking it would
> be cool to give a stone-like appearance to the paint.
> Sharon,
> I don't know if you can afford it, but Fleckstone is a spray paint
> found in the hardware store/building supply stores that gives a great
> stone like appearance. comes in all kinds of colors.
> Gelato
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<font face="Arial"><font size=-1>I'm
thinking ahead a few steps (imagine that!), trying to figure out how my
younger students will paint their gargoyles. They'll be using plastercraft
over newspaper and cardboard, and I was thinking it would be cool to give
a stone-like appearance to the paint.</font></font><font face="Arial"><font size=-1></font></font>
<br><font face="Arial"><font size=-1>Sharon,</font></font>
<br><font face="Arial"><font size=-1>I don't know if you can afford it,
but Fleckstone is a spray paint found in the hardware store/building supply
stores that gives a great stone like appearance. comes in all kinds of
colors.</font></font>
<br><font face="Arial"><font size=-1>Gelato</font></font>
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FYI If you look in the Sax catalog on page 542 you will see Krylon Make =
It Stone and also Sandstone Textural Acrylics. Both products will give =
you the stone look. Hope this helps. Judy
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I'm thinking ahead a few steps (imagine that!), trying to figure out =
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Sharon,=20
I don't know if you can afford it, but Fleckstone is a spray paint =
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stone like appearance. comes in all kinds of colors.=20
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<DIV>FYI If you look in the Sax catalog on page 542 you will see =
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Make It Stone and also Sandstone Textural Acrylics. Both products =
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<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Saturday, November 04, =
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In a message dated 11/4/00 8:48:31 AM Central Standard Time,
litesal@email.msn.com writes:
<< The students shave chalk dust onto the
starch
> where it floats. They can drag patterns or swirl the colors, then lift a
print
> by laying paper on the surface. I think the starch can be thinned with
water.
>
> I want to use this in a lesson about Japanese prints. I'm wondering if
this is
> an intellectually honest way to represent Suminagashi, a water print
technique
> that uses floating ink. >>
Think when I did this years ago I just floated ink and then equal amount of
oil on
top of water - swirled and pulled a paper print. The floating chalk dust
works great
with just water. The liquid starch can be saved for thinned acrylic paint
floated on top. Roberta
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One of my co-workers purchased a nice wooden Bambara sculpture of a
woman and her child. The bad part is that it has several cracks in
it. Is there a way to stop or slow down cracking in wood? I don't
know how old the sculpture is. Even here, they sometimes "age" it to
make it look older. How can you prevent wood sculptures from cracking
in the first place?
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In a message dated 11/3/00 11:53:06 AM Central Standard Time,
cindyselvaggio@earthlink.net writes:
<< FYI Liquid Watercolors can also be found on page 30 in the Sax catalog.
> > Judy >>
Still love those Sax liquid watercolors - great strength - stain the paper
but can be lifted when fresh. Will clean out of a carpet without staining!!
Old carpet over 20 years
old - spilled cerulean blue - looked hopeless but shampooer got it all out!!!
Roberta
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Subject: Re: art prints
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On 11/4/00 4:30 AM, sewnart at sewnart@ili.net wrote:
> Anyone out there have a good source for individual art prints?
> Inexpensive?
>
> Thanks,
> Kimberly
Write to Art Prints for Children for a free catalog. PO Box 675,
Hollidayburg, PA 16648
My favorite is Art Image Publications, PO Box 568, Champlain, NY 12919. They
have different packages and selections, groupings,... for very reasonable
prices.
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My book, Discovering Great Artists, has a page called "Art Resources", on
page 5, if you can get to a copy, there are many suggestions of resources,
addresses, and so on.
One time I color-photocopied (and enlarged) graphics from a poster book of
great art...and then I scanned the art copies, then printed them on
transparencies for classroom use.
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From: "mdecker" <mdecker@alpha.wcoil.com>
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Subject: Peace Internet Lesson--links added
Date: Sat, 4 Nov 2000 14:06:12 -0500
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I added the new Peace site links posted to the list (Thanks all!). Please
keep posting new ones you find. I did my search in IxQuick and didn't find
much. Those of you who used Google may have found more good sites.
My Vietnam/Peace page is:
http://www2.wcoil.com/~mdecker/vietnam.htm
(Click on Anti-War Movement to get to the Peace sites)
The People for Peace site has lesson plans. I may do a search for artwork
related to Peace and add to this page...I will let you know.
I have had about enough computer for one day. We lost Outlook (kept locking
up the machine and wouldn't open...I know it was a sign to go outside an
play.....but...)....so I uninstalled...re-installed...still didn't work
(AAACCCKKK). So finally reinstalled the whole Office CD. Fortunately, I
didn't loose my address book or folders in Outlook. But what a hassle!
Technology is only grand ....when it works. But it was all worth it (smile).
I wanted to tell you folks about the updates (ha-ha).
Judy Decker
P.S. For those who know Joseph....Joseph is fine and working on his
Cycle...he is giving it a new paint job. He has been working on sculptures
too (that sound really interesting). I just had to check up on him since he
had the bike back and was feeling fearless (ha-ha).
From anna@istatic.net Sat, 4 Nov 2000 11:20:49
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---So far as I know, the japanesse actually "stole" this art form from the
Chinese. Japanese scholars travelled to China and came back with the
techniques, and turned it into Sumi-e painting, and a couple of other
styles. It is one of the "perfections", along with poetry and calligraphy.
----Maggie- "Well, "stole" is a rather harsh term to use. My references say
that Buddhist priests from China brought the art to Japan, which adopted it
readily"
Oh Jeepers!
My apologies for being..."harsh". My intent is not to offend here, and I
hope the point was not lost becasue of the word STOLE! Geez, artists
BORROW, SHARE, and TAKE ideas and techniques all the time from around the
world, and I am quite glad for it! And as I said, that was just my
understanding, that I read from a book on Japanese Sumi-e painting. It
seems that Maggie has dug up some more specific and different information,
that's great I always like to hear as much as I can to figure out perhaps
what really happened. Just trying to share what I read.
Good luck with it all, I enjoy all the various styles. I have done a
Sumi-e project (as part of a Eastern Art unit)with my fifth graders for a
few years now, and they really love it. We start with Chinese dragons in
foil releif, then go to Japan for a tea ceremony and Sumi-e painting. They
really get into the legends, symbolism, and connections with nature of this
unit. Relaxing. Ahhh.
Take care,
Anna
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Well, it happened again. Last weekend, I went to many yard sales =
looking for blenders and electric skillets to use in class. Still =
looking, we went out this morning again. At one place, Ginny parked the =
truck next to (literally in front of) someone's rollout recycling bin. =
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thing was overflowing with HUGE pieces of matboard.
Well, FORGET about the tag sale we had come there to see, I marched =
right up to the door of the rollout owner and asked if I could have the =
contents therein. She said, "Honey, I have more in here if you want =
it." Can you say SCOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOORE?!! I literally have a =
TRUCKLOAD of matboard "scrap" (none of which is actually scrap size - =
most are 18x24" or bigger), plus 4 acrylic frames w/ mats and a stack of =
cut mats that she had cut to the wrong size! We filled the bed of the =
truck and couldn't get all she had in that house. I can't wait to see =
my co-teacher's face......<snrk>
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Subject: Art about Peace - can use more sites
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I gave up trying to find any "authoritative" sites about Picasso's Peace
series. I did find some posters at the following site:
http://www.artmodes.com/Picasso/picasso.htmlhttp://www.artmodes.com/Picasso-prints-3/picasso-prints-3.htmlhttp://www.artmodes.com/Picasso-prints-4/picasso-prints-4.htmlhttp://www.artmodes.com/Picasso-prints-5/picasso-prints-5.html
Please let us know if any of you found some good sites about Art about Peace
(other than those posted already).
Thanks!
Judy Decker
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RE: One World Posters
Teaching Tolerence is a department of
Southern Poverty Law Center. (SPLC.com?)
I think if you fax them a letter on school letterhead they will send you the One
World Posters and the Teachers Guide. They also should send you on a regular basis
the Magazine Teaching Tolerence which gives numerous examples of teaching diversity
lessons throughout the nation. A great resource.
Call to find out for sure. Phone: 334-264--0286
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I love <snrk>!!! congratulations!
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Subject: art ideas up and ready
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I just put all new art ideas on my webpage, so drop by and enjoy!
I have one from each book I have written. They change each quarter.
Hope you like 'em!
Go to:
http://brightring.com/Fun%20Activities.html
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Thanks Judy~~ Betsy
mdecker wrote:
> I gave up trying to find any "authoritative" sites about Picasso's Peace
> series. I did find some posters at the following site:
> http://www.artmodes.com/Picasso/picasso.html
>
> http://www.artmodes.com/Picasso-prints-3/picasso-prints-3.html
>
> http://www.artmodes.com/Picasso-prints-4/picasso-prints-4.html
>
> http://www.artmodes.com/Picasso-prints-5/picasso-prints-5.html
>
> Please let us know if any of you found some good sites about Art about Peace
> (other than those posted already).
>
> Thanks!
>
> Judy Decker
>
> ---
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Here is a site about the "Kid's Guernica Project"
http://www.artjapan.com/GUERNICA-ART-NEWS.html
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> You should check out the Polyform site (that's who makes Sculpey).
> They
> have great project sheets. The beige Super Sculpey is super strong
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Anyone have any nice ideas on how to make a baby shower special? My
friend, a Librarian, is expecting her first and has already had a shower
where she got just about everything so we are giving her a book shower of
baby books. Hubby is a baseball fan, they THINK it's a boy. I need
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help would be greatly appreciated.
Diannabanana
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Thanks for that recommendation. I found that on amazon and added it to the
wish list. 4 pages and counting.
Kimberly Herbert ( kimberly@wcc.net <mailto:kimberly@wcc.net> )
CAM Administrator
San Angelo Museum of Fine Arts/Children's Art Museum
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Kimberly,
I can't help you out with the videos, but at school I do have a picture book
about Harriet Tubman illustrated by Jacob Lawrence. I'm not sure who wrote
the text, but it's in poem format. A very nice book!
-Lydia in Toledo
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<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Saturday, November =
04, 2000
8:50 AM<br>
<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> ArtsEdNet Talk<br>
<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>Cc:</span></b> ArtsEdNet Talk<br>
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about
Harriet Tubman illustrated by Jacob Lawrence. I'm not sure who =
wrote the
text, but it's in poem format. A very nice =
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I have done a great baby gift for a staff member in my school. I had
everyone who wanted to participate design and color (in reverse) a square
with fabric crayons for the new baby. Then I transferred each square onto a
white piece of fabric, sewed a baby fabric and quilting polyester between and
made a baby blanket. The Mom cherished it! I've also given everyone a ball
of yarn and sewed them to knit or crochet squares and then I put them
together for a blanket..that is asking a lot of the staff as most people
DON't crochet...but the other is easy..then could even design the square on
the computer and put it on special transfer paper....great gift for
retirement too !
Robin
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Thank you so very much Oscar for sharing such a wonderful site with us.
I enjoy seeing your work.
Donna
Well said Sharon!
Sharon Henneborn wrote: If you have never lived in a foreign country and
experienced the communication bombs maybe you are not sensitive to the
possibilities. Please welcome him and cut him a break.
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Thank you so very much Oscar for sharing such a wonderful site with us.
I enjoy seeing your work.
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<p>Well said Sharon!
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Holly112@aol.com wrote:
My students, too have to "settle in to begin working"
At lunch this has been a big topic of ours. Kids just keep getting more
non committed each year. I started this week waiting for them to settle
down. I wait, silently watching them..... BUT, since they are taking up
my time to teach, I take up their time at the end of the period. However
long it takes for them to settle down and get started, they owe me that
much time at the end of the period. Also, the last table to get to the
Do Now, is the last table called to leave. They are starting to get the
message. I don't give late passes either.
Donna
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<br><font face="Tahoma"><font color="#800080"><font size=-1>My students,
too have to "settle in to begin working"</font></font></font><font face="Tahoma"><font color="#800080"><font size=-1></font></font></font>
<p><font face="Tahoma"><font color="#800080"><font size=-1>At lunch this
has been a big topic of ours. Kids just keep getting more non committed
each year. I started this week waiting for them to settle down. I wait,
silently watching them..... BUT, since they are taking up my time to teach,
I take up their time at the end of the period. However long it takes for
them to settle down and get started, they owe me that much time at the
end of the period. Also, the last table to get to the Do Now, is the last
table called to leave. They are starting to get the message. I don't give
late passes either.</font></font></font>
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Hi all...
When I took my job and explored my supply closets I
found some curious materials. I have huge bags of foam
shapes. Circles mostly. I wish I could think of a way
to explain their density- not as thick and heavy as
sponges- they resemble the cheap sponges used for
crafty printing/stenciling. What in the world can I
do with them? I teach middle school. There are so
many that I could feasibly build towers. BTW- I have
alrady done a printmaking project this semester, but I
suppose I could do one with these sponges next
semester with my new crop of students coming after
Christmas. I have no money left over from my budget
and I am running out of the basics. I still have tons
of glue however, so I plan to do paper mache, I have
yarn to do weavings, and clay (hopefully enough to
last through June), and glazes. I have a ton of
drawing paper, but my paint will have to be stretched
thin- my water colors are all but nonexistent after my
seventh graders used them.
It was so difficult to order supplies not knowing how
much each student would actually use! (My first year
in case you don't know me yet) But I guess it's one of
those things you learn the hard way. At first I was
sending this message for suggestions on what to do
with limited materials, but as I type, the wheels are
turning....
origami, marblizing paper, paper mache (I plan to make
"mummies" and shoe box sarcophagi with 6th graders)
It really seems like paper mache is a poor art
teachers dream.. we'll see...I haven't taught it yet.
Luckily by middle school most students know how to do
it already. Whew, I'm babbling... must be the Saturday
night 2 glasses of wine talking....
Jayna
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Beautiful site, Thanks
Cindy
Don Krug wrote:
> Here is a site about the "Kid's Guernica Project"
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> http://www.artjapan.com/GUERNICA-ART-NEWS.html
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> Don Krug
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Yeah, sometimes you wonder why some kids sign up for art. The counsellors
put them in your class because they have a hard time placing them anywhere
else. They can be destructive, don't work and bother others. But somehow
you've got to nurse them along and incorporate them into the class. When you
get several of these students (usually guys) in a class, you've got a real
problem because you can't trust them with materials and it starts to make
things tough on the rest of the kids who really enjoy the art projects. When
you're teaching art in school, no matter the grade level, that seems to be
the nature of the beast. Fortunately, they're usually greatly in the
minority, but can be a real pain, nonetheless.
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Jayna,
If you can marble paper, you can then make books from it. Beg leftover mat
board from a frame shop. Mix a good cooked glue with cornstarch and water and
Elmer's.
Make lots of books. One for each subject, or for artists or sketch books.
Maybe you have a place like Kinkos for the text block paper. They give us
boxes free. Also supermarkets give away brown paper bags. They make wonder
marble paper for good strong books.
Leslie in Framingham
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Good point Larry, excellent! But are some kids afraid to create? They'll
engage in all sorts of avoidance tactics. I always get a few who literally
you have to wonder why they were placed in art. Perhaps the other kids have
laughed at their attempts to draw or paint and they've decided to avoid any
subjection to ridicule. Their self-esteem wasn't high to begin with. How do
you get these kids to at least try? Encouraging them, cajoling them,
challenging them...sometimes just letting them be.
Dennis in CA
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In a message dated 11/4/00 10:02:16 PM Eastern Standard Time, djash@ibm.net
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> However long it takes for them to settle down and get started, they owe me
> that much time at the end of the period.
>
Hi Donna,
We only have 3 minutes between classes, and I have a new class entering
during that time, so that wouldn't work for me. I'd like to have detention
during my lunch period, but the offending classes have core classes then...
I'll have to check out what options I have with my AP I guess......
Thanx for sharing. My schedule won't be this one forever! Maybe one day I
can do what you said!
Holly :0)
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<HTML><FONT COLOR="#800080" SIZE=2 FAMILY="SANSSERIF" FACE="Tahoma" LANG="0">In a message dated 11/4/00 10:02:16 PM Eastern Standard Time, djash@ibm.net <BR>writes:
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<BR></FONT><FONT COLOR="#000000" SIZE=2 FAMILY="SANSSERIF" FACE="Arial" LANG="0">
<BR><BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=CITE style="BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px">However long it takes for them to settle down and get started, they owe me <BR>that much time at the end of the period.
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<BR>Hi Donna,
<BR>
<BR></FONT><FONT COLOR="#000000" SIZE=2 FAMILY="SANSSERIF" FACE="Arial" LANG="0">We only have 3 minutes between classes, and I have a new class entering <BR>during that time, so that wouldn't work for me. I'd like to have detention <BR>during my lunch period, but the offending classes have core classes then... <BR>I'll have to check out what options I have with my AP I guess......
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In a message dated 11/4/00 3:01:26 AM Eastern Standard Time,
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> Subject: Help with colored sand
>
> Help....I need a way to color white play sand without using powdered
tempera!
> I need the information ASAP so I can get supplies rounded up for Monday
> morning.
> Thanks to everyone!
> >>
Sand Coloring
Fine sand; Water; Food coloring; Paper cups; Plastic spoons
Fill paper cups half full with sand. Next, add water to cups to completely
cover sand. Add food coloring to get the desired color. Stir with plastic
spoon and let set for 15 minutes. Pour off water, spoon sand onto paper
towels and spread the sand out to dry.
0r
put sand in zip lock bags and added drops of food coloring. I
let student carefully shake the sand in the bags until the color was
distributed evenly.or
use powdered tempera and mix with sand
or
use salt and rub with chalk to get the colors we want. You put the salt on
a paper plate and then rub 1 color to mix it to the right intensity. It's not
as real but it works.Place sand in a pie tin (or other flat
container) and rub colored chalk over it (on the side of the
chalk). As the chalk becomes dust, it mixes with the sand and
causes it to become colored. Again, the colors are brighter
when you use white salt instead of sand.
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> But are some kids afraid to create? They'll
> engage in all sorts of avoidance tactics.
Yes, Dennis, creativity is "risk" taking. I see this among artists all the
time. A definition of professional artists it would appear are those that
have put all this fear of risk behind them, but not necessarily so. Some
have reputation to maintain, and part of them wants to go new directions.
They've worked so hard to present evidence of their talent onto others, and
keep their experimentations quite secret.
On Wetcanvas.com ...I have fun with this. As an artist...I wish to show
what I'm capable of, to express myself. Of course not to express
mistakes...! As an art instructor, I'm obligated to transparency for the
purpose of encouraging and teaching others, so the mistakes I would hide as
an artist are part of the complete package as an instructor!
I just submitted a conte self-portrait lesson on Wetcanvas.com's "how-to"
Artschool...which should be up in a few days. My juniors and seniors have
been working with mirrors and portraiture. I walked them thru steps of
breaking down the face; had them try their hand at pictures of models from
magazines, and now working on themselves.
Its a scary venture. One...to draw from a live model. Two, to be honest at
their age, when appearance and finding acceptance is everything...to
discover and not cover their imperfections. Three...the contemplative
prospective of peering into their own soul thru the window of their eyes.
I realized after a couple days...I was going to have to demonstrate the
"risk"....and broke out a mirror, grabbed a set of conte crayons, and sat
amongst them. A couple things happen. One, their confidence that it CAN be
done is assured, or at least..."someone" can do it. Two, confidence in
their instructor so that his/her assurances can be taken with a faith based
on more trust. Third, they see how the instructor/artist handles mistakes.
My work progressed quickly, and rather well. However...in the process of
getting up every five minutes to help others, it was a struggle remembering
to set my face in the same pose looking back in the mirror! After about 45
minutes of work...I had set my eyes too far apart and not extended my hair
high enough...giving myself that Cromagnon look!
It was important not to protect my ego and dispense with that notion that my
talent prevents me from making failures. Instead...I allowed myself to be
exampled, and that the notion that success is built upon many failures to be
seen and demonstrated. I decided my kids weren't the only one that needed
to see that transparency, and THAT's when I decided my demo needed to be put
up on Wetcanvas.com where artists all over the world could see. So great is
this sense of risk taking...and fear to experiment at the risk of the ego
"slain"...that artists cower frequently. Yes...so, our dear children
especially!
I also demonstrated how to use a kneaded eraser and correct the mistake.
How NOT to panic, but over time learn how to recover.
> Perhaps the other kids have laughed at their attempts to draw
> or paint and they've decided to avoid any subjection to ridicule.
Yes....kids are so very cruel. I warn my students however...that I am quite
capable with the using of words and critique, of thoroughly destroying and
demeaning ANYONE's work in front of the whole class if necessary....such to
be demonstrated if I hear ANYBODY slam another person's work!! Sounds cruel
on my part...but, by proclaiming such early on in the new quarter or
term...I've not had to make any such examples!
We really are sideline coaches, sending them in with plays and confidence,
but we are also the cheerleaders- encouraging them on to victory. We have a
great calling. If we can take the world's messes. If we can take those
kids whose lives are in such turmoil, who do not know the love and care of
parents that are there for them, and by our enthusiasm and personal
attention get them just to "find a little evidence" that they can accomplish
beyond what they thought possible.....we are on a path of healing and
change. We have successfully thrown a safety life ring.
> Their self-esteem wasn't high to begin with. How do
> you get these kids to at least try? Encouraging them, cajoling them,
> challenging them...sometimes just letting them be.
> Dennis in CA
Yes...all these things. I think it also requires the art teacher to realize
he/she is not JUST a teacher teaching a nonacademic class that doesn't
count. This is difficult since so many of us are not taken seriously on
staff. We are social engineering. We are like it or not, in a position to
redeem...to bring hope to the hopeless. We have a mission, and we need to
remain clear on this. Our victories may never be accounted to us here. For
me...I have Another whom is aware of such, and such is enough to give me
encouragement to go on. For others whom find such transcendency pathetic
and dangerous...you need to find something that will help you see the good
you are doing such that the patience to BE patient...the anticipation to
continue to anticipate break thrus succeeds thru trying times. It is
accumulative. Yet, is it not the best payment to have a student years later
come back to tell you how much your efforts meant to him/her and how it had
a force in affecting their lives? Good luck all....
Larry Seiler
http://lseiler.artistnation.com
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*NOTE: THIS POST IS IN ANSWER TO A POST I READ ABOUT A WEEK AGO. MY
COMPUTER DECIDED IT DIDN'T LIKE TO SEND TO THE GETTY LIST AND I HAD TO
FIGURE THINGS OUT...
I'll add some of my thoughts in the body of the post, clipping some here
and
there.
>
> I tried calm, classical music but the din is either so loud it can't even be
> heard, or they keep trying to change it to a radio rap station.
Keep in mind I currently teach middle school, but have taught high
school. A
student who messed with my CD player would have stepped way over my
personal
boundary for what is mine and what is his/hers. This might be easier
for me to
establish because I am nearing 50 and have achieved a level of comfort
with those
boundaries. So, I'd have some sort of consequences for touching it.
The art
nazi, for sure! But when a student feels she has the right to come into
a room
and manipulate it to meet her own needs, there is a message there that
you are
not in charge. She is.
> Rather than
> listen to the music they got louder and their behavior worsened. So I'm
> wondering, maybe not much works for teachers new to a school that has these
> types of needy, attention getting, rude students. Maybe all the advice we
> implement will only work IN TIME. Do you think this is the case?
I kind of think that what improves in time is your understanding of what
things
really hinder your progress, control, etc. Some things just don't work,
and you
will learn what they are and add them to your mental list. For example,
I have
recently learned that it does NOT work to have three kids out on the
patio using
the potter's wheel alone. It really DOES NOT WORK and I won't do it
again!
>
>
> In the meantime, its so frustrating. Anyone who has another idea that hasn't
> been mentioned, all of us people in the "discouraged boat" need to keep
> hearing your solutions. THe one I just can't master with these rude classes
> is the low voice or the wait for silence approach.
The wait for silence approach usually only works with classes that are
basically
easy-going anyway. I don't use it anymore.
> I'll try to watch harder for gum chewing and eating, which they manage to do
> quite successfully, even though I think I'm on the ball.
Oddly enough, I allow the kids to eat and chew gum as long as they do it
politely
and I don't find wrappers. I've been known to bring in cookies for
them,
myself. I take the privilege away when I do and they usually get much
better at
policing themselves. Then, of course, there is the greasy fingers issue
and I
just explain that there are some projects that don't mix with food very
well.
>
>
> The one thing I do that does work a little is being nice to the worst behaved
> kids, after they've been insubordinate or been written up.
This is a good approach. The more you know them, in my experience, the
more
embarrassed they are to really misbehave. Although they will test you.
The
trick is to let them know that you care about them, and while you hold
them
accountable for their behavior, you are ready to work with them when
they are
ready.
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AGAIN...A TARDY POST
You wrote:
Whatever I played was greeted with moans and groans. The
varied ethnic groups were never happy with each others view of music.
That's just the thing, I absolutely allow no personal choice in the
music. It is
my CD player, my classroom, my environment, mine to set the ambiance as
a part of
the educational experience I want to share. Anytime I have let any
student have
anything to do at all with the music I have had the same problem. But
they sure
do ask a lot in the beginning. I've been known to stretch the truth and
tell
them I am not allowed to play their music. And, in truth, some teachers
in our
district have unknowingly played some real trash in their rooms when
they play
student CD's.
Oh...I also don't allow personal CD players. But I'm rethinking this.
What do
you all think? I certainly wouldn't allow them during instructional
time.
Jen in Tallahassee
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<<Oh...I also don't allow personal CD players. But I'm rethinking this. =
What do you all think?>>
Last year at the beginning of the 2nd semester I began allowing students =
to bring CD players to class. The rules were pretty simple:
1. There was to be no sharing of CDs in the classroom--what you walked =
into the room with was what you listened to, and you didn't exchange CDs =
with classmates. =20
2. The volume had to be kept so low that I couldn't hear it as I walked =
by their table. (I didn't monitor what they were listening to, but just =
told them that no one else should be able to hear it.)
3. They could only be used after I'd given instructions for the day--so =
they weren't allowed to walk into the room with them on. Obviously, =
they weren't to be used during lectures--ha! Also, they needed to put =
them away before they left the art room because our school has a "no CD =
players during the academic day" rule.
4. NO SINGING!! :-)
This really worked surprisingly well. It dramatically cut down on the =
amount of talking, and some of my more distractable kids found it much =
easier to work on their projects. Most of them said it really helped =
them focus.
I didn't start out this year with this "privilege" and I may wait until =
we start painting again before allowing it. (We'll be working on =
sculpture next trimester and I think they'd get in the way.) =20
But all things considered, it worked well for us.
Sharon
WEBSITE: http://www.bigfoot.com/~artrageous
Featuring art and art lesson plans, examples of my
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Last year at the beginning of the 2nd =
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were=20
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it.)</FONT></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>3. They could only be used after =
I'd given=20
instructions for the day--so they weren't allowed to walk into the room=20
with them on. Obviously, they weren't to be used during=20
lectures--ha! Also, they needed to put them away before they left =
the art=20
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>4. NO SINGING!! :-)</FONT></DIV>
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kids found it much easier to work on their projects. Most of them =
said it=20
really helped them focus.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I didn't start out this year with this =
"privilege"=20
and I may wait until we start painting again before allowing =
it. (We'll be=20
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way.) =20
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>But all things considered, it worked =
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Melissa,
I just read this last night in a book on Arfican art -
"Green wood cracks when it dries too quickly, so the sculptor rubs oil =
into the wood to slow the drying process. A well made wood carving is =
rubbed with palm or castor oil daily for at least two weeks."
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Jayna,
is the stuff you're talking about sort of a foam rubber kind of stuff? =
Could it possibly be Penscore? I ordered some of that this year, and =
it's like really thick funfoam. It can be heated to accept an =
impression of whatever you press into it. You can also color on it with =
water base markers and stamp a design. Is your stuff a pastel color?
-Lydia in Toledo
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heated to=20
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color on=20
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> > <<Oh...I also don't allow personal CD players. But I'm rethinking this.
> What do you all think?>>
>
> Last year at the beginning of the 2nd semester I began allowing students to bring CD players to class. The rules were pretty simple: <snip>
>
> 3. They could only be used after I'd given instructions for the day--so they weren't allowed to walk into the room with them on. Obviously, they weren't to be used during lectures--ha! Also, they needed to put them away before they left the art room because our school has a "no CD players during the academic day" rule.
>
> This really worked surprisingly well. It dramatically cut down on the amount of talking, and some of my > more distractable kids found it much easier to work on their projects. Most of them said it really helped > them focus.
We used to allow personal stereos, too, 'til it got to the point where
students would pretend not to hear you (in class or the hallway) because
they had their earphones on; they would look straight at you, and then
turn away (in other words, they heard us calling their name). So we
banned their use in the building.
Like Sharon, I don't have a problem with them in my classroom, but
unlike Sharon I feel I need to follow school policy--it sets a bad
example when one or two teachers ignore a policy. I tell the students
that I have rules to follow, too. Sharon, will you respond to this?
Maggie
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Subject: Re: (Barb) WARNING:long & whiny! U may want to delete
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Holly
I have done this also with only three minutes passing. It does work.
I give the warning that I am going to watch the clock and if they see me =
watching the clock they know they are giving up their passing time to =
the next class.
they may loose 10 sec., 20 sec. 30 sec. ...1 min...
If they aren't getting it, I write the sec. on the board
they learn very quickly that every sec. counts
In one or just a few days, it doesn't have to be done any more. If the =
problem arrises again I start watching the clock again. =20
Diane
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However long it takes for them to settle down and get started, they =
owe me=20
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Hi Donna,=20
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entering=20
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detention=20
during my lunch period, but the offending classes have core classes =
then... =20
I'll have to check out what options I have with my AP I guess......=20
Thanx for sharing. My schedule won't be this one forever! Maybe one =
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I give the warning that I am going to =
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>they learn very quickly that every sec. =
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Diane</FONT></DIV>
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FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF"></BLOCKQUOTE><BR>Hi Donna, <BR><BR></FONT><FONT =
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so that=20
wouldn't work for me. I'd like to have detention <BR>during my lunch =
period,=20
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have to=20
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for=20
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<<Like Sharon, I don't have a problem with them in my classroom, but
unlike Sharon I feel I need to follow school policy--it sets a bad
example when one or two teachers ignore a policy. I tell the students
that I have rules to follow, too. Sharon, will you respond to this?>>
Because this was an exception to school policy, I cleared it with our
headmaster, first, before offering this privilege to students--and they
understood that it WAS an exception AND a privilege, okayed by the
headmaster, for studio art classes only, at my discretion.
So I wasn't ignoring school policy because I went through channels to get it
approved--and other school rules (and there are a BUNCH of them at this
small, private school!) are strictly enforced in the art room.
CD players weren't to be seen while walking to the fine arts building or
while leaving it--and students understood that breaking this rule would
result in their losing the privilege to use them.
I teach 5th through 12th grade, and CD player use was only for my upper
school students (8th through 12th graders) when they were working on
long-term, individual projects (such as their paintings).
I'll probably allow students to use them again this spring under the same
conditions.
Sharon
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HI! Holly,
We have 4 minutes in-between classes. The next class will see the first
class waiting and stay outside till they are dismissed. This holding
them back till they "pay back" time especially works great on the last
class of the day. It's really their time then. I also give what we call
teacher detentions on Thursday in my room. When they report for the
detention they must fill out a paper of questions on discipline and
proper behavior in the art room, how they can improve, how participation
effects their grade, etc. If they cut or miss a teacher detention....
they get an automatic saturday school detention which goes on their
record. Still you always have the tough ones who ruin it for the rest
b/c no matter what you do they just don't care. I wish I had the answer,
I just keep trying.
Have a good day.
Donna
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we're working in clay right now, and I want them to have the proper tools, so
I have one of those lazy susans for pencils, a funky 3 tiered thing - clay
tools around the bottom ring, only holds 24 on the ring so several classes
have to share, and needle tools around the next layer...my speech is short,
'I want you to have proper tools to
